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Today I have received the marriage cert for George Applton and Eliza Lane who married 25/02/1860 at Bedminster, Bristol.
George Appleton was 22 so born abt 1837/1838 and Eliza was 19 born abt 1840/1841.
Geoge is noted in the census with Eliza as being born in Liverpool.
Father on the cert for George is Edwin Appleton a b..... maker (cant make it out). Eliza's dad was a boiler maker. I have found Eliza's family but can't find George and Edwin in the 1841/1851 census. On the IGI there is a baptism for George Chambers Appleton father Edwin mother Elizabeth
Can any detective out there see if they can find George and Edwin in the 1841 & 1851 census
Many Many Thanks
Marcelle

Straw-clutching time!!!!!

No George on this one......1841

Edwin is a Brush Maker

Name: Edwin Appleton
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England



Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Appleton 5 Mo
Edwin Appleton 20
Elizabeth Appleton 25

Possible death for the baby...........he doesn't appear on subsequent census returns.

Name: Adam Appleton
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 226


Reg

Thanks Reg, it's a very strong possible. I am staring and staring at the marriage cert and occupation definatley ends in a H.

Marcelle

looking at the image it could say george?
Gloy Appleton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizth
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1x
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Edwd Appleton 8
Elizth Appleton 35
Gloy Appleton 13
Thos Appleton 2

1851

no husband in house but shes married.
Elizth Appleton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

1861?
Edwin Appleton
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15


brush maker

Thanks Jen

In 1851 was Elizabeth married or widowed I wonder? Maybe George was with relatives.
Thanks for looking

1851 eliz is married...the "gloy" looks to say george, on the cencus page

Thanks for looking Reggie and Jen. If I could find Geoges birth and order cert it would only confirms mums name wouldn't it as I already have dads
Your help is greatly appreciated

this is a poss death for adam. just after the census was taken.?
Adam Appleton 1841 Apr-May-Jun Liverpool (1837-1934) Lancashire

cencus was taken 6th june.1841, so could be him dying after the 6th.

poss birth
George Appleton 1839 Apr-May-Jun Prescot Lancashi

edwins birth?

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EDWIN APPLETON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 MAY 1817 St Johns Old Haymarket, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN APPLETON Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

cant see anything for marriage for edwin on igi or ancestry

Many Thanks Jen

Dont know what I am doing, so have nudged to see if anyone else can find George...Thankyou though to Jen & Reggie

This definitely is clutching at straws

1841

George Chambers
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool


Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Chambers 50 tailor
George Chambers 4
Mary Chambers 45


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 555; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 10; Page: 12; Line: 13; GSU roll: 306937.

This family is living Bispham St same as the Appletons.
It's possible that George is the grandson of George and Mary Chambers and his proper surname got missed.
If George Chambers Appleton is the correct one then it is quite possible that he wasn't registered. Registration began July 1837 and he was baptised in the September so was possibly born before registration began.

Andy

Mybe the above should be ignored

from Liverpool marriages on familyhistoryonline

Parish St Annes, Richmond Date 18370626 Groom Edwin Appleton of parish Liverpool occupation Brush Maker Bride Elizabeth Toombs of parish Liverpool a Spinster by Banns/Licence B
Amount paid £0.08

Andy

Oh my god Andy.... I was just looking at George Chambers as on the IGI he is noted as George Chambers Appleton!!!

Marcelle

Andy, I owe you one! If you ever need a look up in Bristol give me a shout...I seem to be able to help everyone else with their searches but when it comes to mine I get totally stumped!!

Once again Thankyou so much

Andy

I see what you mean with the surname Toombs.. I was thinking along the same lines as George being with grandparents

Marcelle