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MY GREAT GRAN WAS A LADY, AND FOR 1 REASON OR ANOTHER HAD TO DE-NOUNCE HER TITLE, MAY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE SHE RE-MARRIED OR THAT SHE HAD MARRIED A 'COMMONER'. HER PICTURE IS IN THE 'DOVER CASTLE', I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE GOT HER TITLE, OR WHO SHE WAS RELATED TO, ANY INFO WOULD BE OF HELP.
HER NAME IS EVA ELIZABETH JOHNSON WHICH I BELIEVE WAS HER MAIDEN NAME, ONE OF HER OTHER NAMES WAS MILLER, ( WHICH IS MY GRANDAD'S NAME), SHE HAD 6 CHILDREN, WHO EVENTUALLY ENDED UP IN CARE, SHE WAS BORN IN 1895, AND MARRIED A CHARLES MILLER, WHO WAS BORN IN 1890,
MY GRANDAD ALSO HAS SCOTTISH TIES, ALTHOUGH I AM NOT SURE WHETHER THAT COMES FROM HIS MOTHER OR FATHER, PLEASE HELP ME..............................................

any idea when she married & who was the eldest child

And when the eldest child was born?

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY MARRIED, BUT CHARLIE WAS THE ELDEST DOB 1912, EVA DOB 1915, JUNE DOB 1917, RAYMOND DOB 1919, GEORGE (MY GRANDAD) DOB 1920, AND WILLIAM DOB 1921, THEY ENDED UP IN A HOME IN DOVER, I FORGOT TO SAY EARLIER,

I THINK MY GRANDAD'S DAD (CHARLES GEORGE EDWARD MILLER) DIED IN THE WAR, POSSIBLY IN 1921, AND HIS FRIEND PROMISED TO TRY AND LOOK AFTER HER (EVA JOHNSON/MILLER) WHEN HE CAME BACK FROM THE WAR, AND THIS IS WHO SHE POSSIBLY MARRIED, SO THIS COULD BE WHERE HER 2ND MARRIAGE WAS,

Is this one of the children

Name: Eva E M Miller
Year of Registration: 1917
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Johnson
District: Dover
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1542 (click to see others on page)

yes i think this is one of them, she died a few years back now, poss 5-10 yr's ago,

There are these marriages...

Firstly

Eva E Johnson
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Dover
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 2398

Herbert Cairns on same page.....



Eva E Cairns - Charles G E Miller
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Surname: Miller
District: Dover
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 3319

Gail

Possible death of Herbert....

Herbert Cairns
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 37
District: Plympton St Mary
County: Cornwall, Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 213

Gail.

From the Commonwealth War Graves Site - but cannot be right one if the above marriage is correct..........this gentleman died before the marriage above....

MILLER, CHARLES GEORGE EDWARD
Initials: C G E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Middlesex Regiment
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Date of Death: 26/02/1915
Service No: SR/7107
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 49 and 51.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Gail.

Commonwealth War Graves Commission

Name: MILLER, CHARLES GEORGE EDWARD
Initials: C G E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Middlesex Regiment
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Date of Death: 26/02/1915
Service No: SR/7107
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 49 and 51.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL


Snap, Gail.

Birth of Charles George Edward Miller

Charles George E Miller
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Dover
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 944

Gail

wow, yes cairns def ringing lots of bells, trying to rack my brain now, lol, i've collected so much junk in my head for so many year's, i forget some names, but that name is def right, think that could of been the scottish connection too, my grandad's sibling's may not all have same father,this info is brilliant, thank u,
tracey

Hi Tracey

The gentleman on the commonwealth war grave site died Feb 1915 so If your Charles married end of 1915 then they cannot be the same person.

Just trying to find more information on Eva.

Gail.

Hi Ozibird

What do you think....the marriages above tie up very nicely..so must be two different people

Gail

Possible birth registration for Eva...

Eva Elizabeth Johnson
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Maidstone
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 756

Gail

i remember that there was some discrepances when i looked up eva before, many many many years ago, in london, with those great big books that weighed half a ton, ha ha, but that was prob 20 yrs ago now, but when i spoke to my grandad back then, he didn't really want to talk about it, his generation an all, but i told him i'd found 2 marriages to her and he confirmed she had been married twice, i think it was prob too painful for him to talk about, which is understandable, but i had a chance conversation at one of those big family does we all love, lol, and found out that cairn's was 1 of her names, this is what my grandad's sister eva told me about their mother eva,
tracey

I agree.

Having dificulty finding some of the children. Like Raymond for example.

Ozi.

Hi Tracey

Well she had quite a bad time of it if her first husband died so soon and so young and then if Charles died as well, it must have been very difficult for her.

Gail.

and i remember someone saying that they sometimes lied about thier ages to get work back then, and i think that was a complete stranger that obviously new more than me, lol,