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I have a Edith Phillips with many siblings and welsh and i think mothers name Louise
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Noticed this post when I was looking in the Phillips surname list for someone else. You might want to put "Edith Phillips" in your subject line, Susan -- when your post is viewed on the general Trying To Find board there is no surname attached to it. Major system flaw, we're stuck with it.
Meanwhile, if you search at http://www.freebmd.org.uk
for Edith Phillips born 1907 ... there were a lot of them. Do you know where/when your grandmother died? If it was 1984 or later, it should be possible to identify her death in the GRO index and get a precise birthdate for her from that record, which might help, if you don't have it. If you do, tell! Do you know whether she had a middle name? Her mother's name -- given name, at least? Were her parents married by 1901, do you think?
In 1901 there are only two approximately matching Richard Phillips-s in the census who were born in Nottinghamshire. One, born c1873, is a soldier in Dorset. The other is:
Name: Richard Phillips
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Worksop
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert and St Mary
Town: Worksop
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Worksop
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 180
Frances Phillips 67
Harry Phillips 21
Richard Phillips 28
and I imagine you've looked at him before. His occupation is wood turner; his brother is an asphalter. But aha -- his mother Frances is a Grocer-Shopkeeper.
Do you think that just might be the one?
But FreeBMD finds no Richard Phillips born in Worksop in that timeframe. Or between 1870 and 1880 in Nottinghamshire.
So ... let's see what the 1891 census says. ... And it says the same thing:
Name: Richard Phillips
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Worksop
Ecclesiastical parish: Priory Church
Town: Worksop
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Worksop
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Frances Phillips 56
Frank Phillips 26
Harry Phillips 12
Howard Phillips 13
Richard Phillips 18
Sarah Phillips 21
William Phillips 57
One wonders whether he was a child of Frances before her marriage to William, and born with a different surname. Checking the 1881 census ... same thing, but we get an initial:
Name: Richard W. Phillips
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Worksop
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Rock Cottage
Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Worksop
Father William, born in Worksop, is "Grocer & Topplater Asphalter".
So why was he never born? Searching for Richard Phillips born 1871 to 1875 anywhere at all ... well, you check it out. There's one later than 1873 with the right middle name in an interesting place that isn't Nottinghamshire!
Now, if you think that's your man, you search at FreeBMD for his parents' marriage -- search for a marriage for William Phillips with spouse Frances, which will find you pages where a William Phillips appears with a bride named Frances, who may or may not be the person he married.
Nothing seems to match up. I'm still thinking that Richard may have been a child of Frances not named Phillips.
In the household in 1881:
Charles Hy. Phillips 2
Frances Phillips 47
Francis Phillips 16
Herbert H. Phillips 3
John Phillips 20
Mary Jane Phillips 15
Richard W. Phillips 9
Sarah Phillips 11
William Phillips 47
there's a fair gap between the 9-yr-old and the 3-yr-old. Maybe that's the period when Frances and William married?
Try searching for a William Phillips - Frances marriage in Worksop 1870-1878. Nothing there, but you could widen the search.
I'm afraid this isn't terribly helpful! It does look like that could be the right family in Worksop though -- grocers, in Nottinghamshire, which matches up with what you thought.
If you come up with anything, just post in this thread! (I hate private messages that make me go looking for threads, and if you post info here anybody who might know something or be able to help could see it.)
Oh -- one last attempt, it having just dawned on me that there were children in the 1881 household born before 1871. And there they all are:
Anne Phillips 8
Frances Phillips 37
Frank Phillips 7
John Phillips 70
John Phillips 9
Mary Phillips 5
Sarah Phillips 1
William Phillips 37 - Carter
So they're in Worksop in 1871, Richard was born after that census, and I can't find his birth. Maybe you can do better! ... unless this is actually the info you already had ...
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Need help trying to find my grandmothers family.May have originated from nottingham area.Believe father Richard phillips born c1880 had a shop. They moved to South Wales.Edith his daughter my grandmother married in 1928 to Roger Davies in Bridgend.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
regards
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