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Census 1871 Place of Birth Needed

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Allan

Allan Report 3 Dec 2007 23:52

If someone can look up the 1871 census for
Charles Shipton
b 1829 Gloucestershire
residence 1871 Manchester
occupation army reserve/warehouse porter
spouse Mary
b 1831 Denbigh
I would like the place of birth that Charles Shipton was born in and also his wife Mary.....

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 3 Dec 2007 23:55

1871 England Census
about Charles Shipton
Name: Charles Shipton
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Chorlton On Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret A Shepton 2
Charles Shipton 42
David Shipton 19
James Shipton 8
Mary Shipton 40
William Shipton 10


Mary born Denbigh Wales
David born Horsley, rest of children born Manchester

Allan

Allan Report 4 Dec 2007 00:43

Hi stargazer, No that is not the right parents for Charles Shipton..in the 1841 census a Charles Shipton is listed his parents are John Shipton b 1804 Watledge Lane Michinghamton and his wife has been transcribed as Deborab 1807, which is an unusual name for that period. I could not find the names inother census..many THANKS for your HELP

Allan

Allan Report 4 Dec 2007 00:46

Hi Claire of Wales..Many thanks for the census information..from your information the census only gives Denbigh as place of birth of Mary..so I feel that no town was listed for her. Am I correct

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Dec 2007 01:50

Are you sure that the wife is not Deliah

1851
Name: John Shipton
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Deliah
Gender: Male
Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Horsley
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Minchinhampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Elliott 61
William Risby 7
Deliah Shipton 43 born Falmouth
John Shipton 46

The same couple can be found in 1861 and 1871 and 1881

She can be found in 1891 with a possible death in QTR 2 in Stroud

Allan

Allan Report 4 Dec 2007 05:25

Hi Glitter Baby, I feel that there is an error in transcribing the christian name of Deborah Shipton..as I cannot see the original I have to make a judgement. If possible may I have the 1861 and 1871 census..I have the 1841 and can retreave the 1881 census from IGI..Many Thanks

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Dec 2007 05:34

1841 Census (for reference)

Name: John Shipton
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Minchinhampton
Hundred: Longtree
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Minchinhampton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Shipton 13 b.ca 1828, Gloucestershire
Debora Shipton 34 b. ca 1807, Gloucestershire
John Shipton 37 Labourer

Address:- Watledge Lane, Minchinhampton


It does look like Debora or Deboro on the image



BTW ............. Allan, this was not an unusual name for those days, as it is a name from the bible, and biblical names were commonly used.



sylvia




SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Dec 2007 05:40

1851 Census


it is Deliah on the census image, so it is not a transcriber's error, and she was born in Falmouth


1861

Image shows Deliah, born Falmouth, Cornwall

1871

Image shows Deliah, born Falmouth

1881

Image shows Deliah, born Falmouht


I'm sorry, but there has been no mis-transcription of Deliah, it is perfectly clear on all of them


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Dec 2007 05:55

Deliah's death registration (from www.freebmd.org)

Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)

Shipton Deliah 84 Stroud 6a 229



NO deaths for a Deb* Shipton found on freebmd in Gloucestershire from September 1837 to 1920.

- - - -

It looks as though Deborah might be the mis-transcription!!


sylvia

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 4 Dec 2007 08:53

I wonder if this is daughter Margaret A

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Margaret Deliah Shipton
Name: Margaret Deliah Shipton
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
DISTRICT: Chorlton
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 633 (click to see others on page

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 4 Dec 2007 09:35

well travelled man???

1861 England Census
about Mary Ellen Shipton
Name: Mary Ellen Shipton
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Charles
Mother's name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Jonian Islands

Civil parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 67
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Shipton 32
Davie Shipton 9
John Shipton 10
Mary Shipton 30
Mary Ellen Shipton 3
William Shipton 1 Mo


Allan

Allan Report 4 Dec 2007 10:06

Hi Claire from Wales and Sylvia from Canada..The census of Mary Ellen Shipton is the daughter of Charles and Mary Shipton the reason that Mary Ellen was born at Ionian Islands Greece is that her father was in the Crimean War and the family travelled with him....The Margaet A shipton b 1869 is my family line, so I know that entry is correct..the birth of Margret Deliah Shipton b 1867 could be another daughter and maybe a early death would give reason to Margaret A Shipton name in 1869...I feel that Deliah is more then likely the wife of John Shipton and mother of Charles Shipton b 1829..I have searched BMD for a death of Debora without success..shame I have no other children listed to John and Debora Shipton.

Allan

Allan Report 4 Dec 2007 10:33

Hi Claire from Wales..I cannot see a Margaret Deliah Shipton b 1867 Chorlton in the 1871 census index..so there is a possibility of an early death