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June Report 4 Dec 2007 19:19

Hi James - although Mary Ann Wallett's birth cannot be found - her sister, Fanny Wallett's, birth is registered - Q/E June 1856 West Bromwich District Vol 6b, Page 642. May be worth sending for that.
According to 1851 and 1861 census Mary Ann has at least 3 sisters and 1 brother. Mother is Elizabeth, a widow on both these censuses - which is strange. This Elizabeth was married to a miner, Thomas Wallett on 1841 census.
The surname of Fox may be a 'stepfather'.

See what you think.
Regards Janey

James

James Report 4 Dec 2007 17:48

Hi Potty

Thank you for your help, the witnesses to Marriage is Joseph Hopkinson and Eliza Hopkinson

Regards James

Potty

Potty Report 4 Dec 2007 17:34

Hi James

Have been looking for your Mary Ann. I cannot find a birth for her under either Wallett or Fox but I have found this family in 1851 and 1861 who could be connected:

1861

1861 England Census
about Mary Ann Wallett
Name: Mary Ann Wallett
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 216
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Bennett 2
Mary Ann Bennett 22
Joseph Hogg 50
Elizabeth Wallett 44
Elizabeth Wallett 14
Fanny Wallett 5
Mary Ann Wallett 2
Thomas Wallett 9

The mother, Elizabeth, is listed as Wife, but the image just has a W (other entries have wife) and is shown as married. It is a coal mining area (coal miners on image). All the family are shown as born West Bromwich.

In the 1851 the family is at the same address (it looks like Greets Green Rd. West Bromwich)

Mother is a widow ( but has 3 more children before 1861!); birth place - unknown; children born W Brom

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Wallett
Name: Elizabeth Wallett
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: N

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South
ED, institution, or vessel: 1t
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Brown 5
Mary Brown 30
Elizabeth Wallett 34
Elizabeth Wallett 4
Sarah Wallett 8
Rosanna Ward 4

I cannot find a Robert Wallet in the 1851 or 1861, neither can I find a death before 1851 or a marriage.

Who were the witnesses to the marriage. Any clues there?

ceri

ceri Report 4 Dec 2007 17:20

from the date of birth you state i would like to say that it would be the 1858 one however if her parents didnt register her birth straight away there is slight chance it could be the 2nd qtr 1859 one, however if you obtain the actual birth cert this would confirm her parents names which you could match up with the marriage cert that you have

ceri

ceri Report 4 Dec 2007 17:17

hi
i have found the following:

Mary Ann Fox 1858 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
View Record
Mary Ann Fox 1859 Apr-May-Jun Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
View Record
Mary Ann Fox 1859 Jul-Aug-Sep Newport S Shropshire, Staffordshire

GRMarilyn

GRMarilyn Report 4 Dec 2007 17:17

Hi James
Found a Birth of a Mary Ann Fox Wolverhampton which is in Staffordshire 1858 Dec Qrt 6b 413
Hope this helps.
Marilyn.

James

James Report 4 Dec 2007 16:20

I am looking for my grandmothers birth Certificate she was born Mary Ann Wallett or Fox on 5th November 1858 in Staffordshire.

Mary Ann married on 29th Sept 1879 to William T Bell, On marriage Certificate it as Mary Ann Fox age 20 spinster living in Parish Stockport Father Robert Wallett Occupation Miner.
Married in Norbury Church pairsh of Stockport Cheshire or Chester

Robert Wallett could have been born around 1830's.

A Very big thank you to all that can help

Regards James