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Anyone up for a challenge plz?

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Rebecca

Rebecca Report 5 Dec 2007 10:08

This is quite a complicated one, but here goes......

I have on the 1861 census Thomas Johnson,born Kingston Lilse, and Alice Johnson(nee Busson) with 3 of their daughters, Jane , Mary A, and Elizabeth. Also with them are John Johnson, Thomas' brother and a cousin called Elizabeth Wirdenham?....
I was trying to find out how Elizabeth fitted into the equation.
I have found her in 1851 with her parents listed as Wirnham, her parents being Richard and Caroline, and have since found a marriage for Richard Wirdman and Caroline Clark in 1841 in the correct district....
My question is if Elizabeth and Thomas were cousins would Thomas' mother have been a clark or a Wirdman? Does this sound right? I have yet to find Thomas' parents but thought that going through Elizabeth may help things. What does everyone else think please or am i barking up the wrong tree here?
Thank you everyone, Rebecca.

Sam

Sam Report 5 Dec 2007 10:10

1861 for reference:

Name: Elizabeth Wirdenham
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Cousin
Gender: Female
Where born: Fernham, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Langford
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 9d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Johnson 28
Elizabeth Johnson 4 Mo
Jane Johnson 5
John Johnson 10
Mary A Johnson 2
Thomas Johnson 32
Elizabeth Wirdenham 13

Thomas's mother could have been a Wirdman or a Clark, he would still be a cousin to Elizabeth either way.

Sam x

Moggie

Moggie Report 5 Dec 2007 10:35

Hi Rebecca.
I think this could be Thomas in 1841 the image says that it is Kingston Lisle.

1841 England Census
about Thomas Johnson
Name: Thomas Johnson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sparsholt
Hundred: Shrivenham
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Buckland
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Johnson 30
Richard Johnson 1
Thomas Johnson 30
Thomas Johnson 9


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Moggie

Moggie Report 5 Dec 2007 10:42

Hi Rebecca. Brother John in 1851 Thomas Jr not with them.

1851 England Census
about John Johnson
Name: John Johnson
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingstone Lisle, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sparsholt
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Shrivenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4, 5, and 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Johnson 42
John Johnson 9 Mo
Richard Johnson 12
Thomas Johnson 44


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June

June Report 5 Dec 2007 10:43

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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THOMAS JOHNSON
Male

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JANE WIRDNAM
Marriage: 10 JUL 1830 Uffington, Berkshire, England





June x

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 5 Dec 2007 10:49

Wow, thank you so much everyone, i will have a closer look at these, you are all very kind..

June

June Report 5 Dec 2007 10:52

1851
Name: Jane Johnson
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Fernham, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sparsholt
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Shrivenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4, 5, and 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Johnson 42
John Johnson 9 Mo
Richard Johnson 12
Thomas Johnson 44



1851
Name: Richard Wirnham
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Fernham, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernham
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Faringdon
Sub-registration district: Shrivenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Wirnham 6
Caroline Wirnham 25
Elizabeth Wirnham 3
Henry Wirnham 9
Maria Wirnham 4
Richard Wirnham 30



both say Fernham


June x