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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Belinda	Report	5 Dec 2007 10:56
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out there...I'm trying to find birth parents of a Catherine Sweeney b 1866 she married Adam miller in 1884 but I dont find nothing on her before the 1891 census when she was aged 25 and living in liverpool. She had a brother boarding with her and her family named Patrick Sweeney b 1878 by the time the 1901 census came out but cannot find anything before then. can anyone help find out any more information for me please? As I said I have the info from the 1891 and 1901 census but cant find anything before that. Thanks in advance!! Belinda
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,296 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	5 Dec 2007 10:59
	Where was she born? The marriage cert will tell you her father's name and occupation. Reg
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,296 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:01
	Have you looked for the brother in 1881? Reg
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Belinda	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:03
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Thats the weird thing Reggie I cant find anything on her apart from the census's I mentioned!! I've only just noticed that her brother is living with her on the 1901 census. I had a look on the 1871 census but that isnt the same catherine miller. I know it was June 1884 when she married Adam Miller and I know it was in liverpool but I've drawn a blank to anything else.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Belinda	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:08
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	How do I access 1881 census I thought they missed that out on here Reg!
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,296 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:08
	Her name in 1871 would not have been Miller These are the details you need to order the marriage cert Name: Adam William Miller Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 378 Catherine Sweeney Reg
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,296 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:09
	1881 is completely free on www.familysearch.org Reg
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Belinda	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:18
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	her maiden name was Sweeney, Married Adam Miller had children, Christina, John, Hannah, Michael & Mary If that helps!!!
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:19
	Sorry, I deleted the last two posts as I was looking at Catherine Sweeney in 1891 instead of Catherine Miller. Kath. x
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Belinda	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:24
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	This is so frustrating at times!!!
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,985 Send Message	Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:51
	Was Adam born in 1872? If so, is it likely that Christina and John are his children? I'm wondering whether Catherine was married before - to a chap called Sweeney - so her maiden name would have been something completely different? How do you know Patrick is her brother? He could have been a relation of her first husband (if she had been married before)? Just thinking aloud here ... Jill
	Researching: London: Faber, Haysey, Spicer ...
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,985 Send Message	Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:55
	Just noticed in 1891 that he was born in 1863 so that puts paid to my married-before theory ... Jill
	Researching: London: Faber, Haysey, Spicer ...
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Belinda	Report	5 Dec 2007 11:55
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	no more cans of worms please cries lol, christina and John were adam and catherine's children Jill yes. I've found loads on Adam but not much on Catherine as you can tell by my threads! have been in touch with Adam and Catherine's other gt granddaughter (mary's grandchild) and she is stuck the same as me!
Member Since: June 2003 Posts: 9,985 Send Message	Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)	Report	5 Dec 2007 12:02
	Sorry Belinda - it's just his age on 1901 threw me for a minute. Do you have Catherine and Adam's marriage cert - that will give you her father's name and will help on searching? Jill
	Researching: London: Faber, Haysey, Spicer ...
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 743 Send Message	Diane	Report	5 Dec 2007 12:13
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 743 Send Message	That Catherine was still a Sweeny in 1891
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 10,522 Send Message	Potty	Report	5 Dec 2007 12:24
	Belinda Have just looked at the image for 1901 - it doesn't actually say that he is her brother. It says "boarder" so he could be any relation or none.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,296 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	5 Dec 2007 12:29
	Buy the marriage cert...........it really is the only way to make progress....... Reg
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 2,470 Send Message	CelticShiv	Report	5 Dec 2007 14:02
	is this her in 1881 Name: Catherine Sweeney Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Caroline Gender: Female Where born: Lpool Civil Parish: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 19 Laurence Street Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Domestic Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Caroline Sweeney 40 Catherine Sweeney 16 Elizabeth Sweeney 12 George Sweeney 14 James Sweeney 40 James Sweeney 21 Mary Ann Sweeney 6 Rosiena Sweeney 1 Sarah Sweeney 19
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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Belinda	Report	5 Dec 2007 16:29
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 58 Send Message	Thanks for all your help! her father was thomas(b1831) and her mother was called catherine (b 1832) although. Just a quick question though, do you know if it was normal for Parents to leave behind their offspring when emigrating to america? I think it was possibly due to the potato famine of 1846. Thomas' father was called Patrick (b 1877) and his mother nancy they were both born in Sligo and I have found their burial site at a cemetery in New York. (Thanks for your funny feeling reg!) I have no clue as to what happened to Thomas during this time!! Thanks for all your help I dont know what I'd do without you!!!!!

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