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John Derry born 1804

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Gillian

Gillian Report 7 Dec 2007 10:15

Thanks anyway Julie - you have been SO helpful - I am at a loss now & cant make head nor tail of it!!!!!!

Known FACTS:

I have come across a marriage of James Mann to Rosetta (?) - they have 3 children, William 1872 /Elizabeth82 / Rosie85. There is also an earlier child Arthur Derry born 1871. On Elizabeths birth record, mothers maiden name PARKER. so Rosetta Parker..

I then had a PM from a 'relative' who also had Rosetta in her tree, married to Mr ? Derry and HER father was detailed as John Derry & mother Grace. so. Rosetta Derry..


...But then Arthurs surname is Derry (later changed to Mann).

I thought, that if I could find 'The Parents' John Derry & Grace, I would see if they had:
1. either a son, who married Rosetta Parker
or
2. A daughter Rosetta, who married a Mr Parker.

Hopefully, I am making sense & you can see where I am coming from.

Any ideas?

Gillian

Gillian Report 6 Dec 2007 13:21

Julie

Just had an interesting thought ( dont have many)!!!!!

But, if pos could you find the marriage of;
Joseph Derry 6 , who we saw in the original finding of the Derry family in the 1851 census in Leicester.
so looking at marriages aroungd 1865ish

If my hunch is right, HE married someone called Rose, Rosie or Rosetta!!!!!! - hopefully, Rosetta Parker!

If right, we will have been 'barking up the wrong tree' & I will then explain all .
Thanks
Gill

Gillian

Gillian Report 6 Dec 2007 10:19

Hi Julia

Yes - I do believe that this is Rosetta Mann (John & Graces daughter) & her family in 1891. she is a widow here, so at some earlier point , her husband has died.

I can understand the confusion.

Rosetta had a son, Arthur, before she married James Mann ( I am tracing the Mann family history). Arthurs surname is shown as Derry.

BUT, when Rosetta has her daughter, Elizabeth Mann (with James) - the mothers maiden name is shown as Parker.(?) so I wondered if she had previously been married to a Parker?

Gillian

Gillian Report 5 Dec 2007 14:30

Hi Folks
Many thanks for all your help!!!

Heres what I have so far:

In tracing the "Mann" family history - Leicester. I have come across a marriage of James Mann to Rosetta (?) - they have 3 children, William 1872/Elizabeth82/ Rosie85. There is also an earlier child Arthur Derry born 1871. On Elizabeths birth record, mothers maiden name Parker.

So, I assumed Rosettas maiden name was Parker and also assumed that she had been married before to Mr ? Derry.

I then had a PM from a 'relative' who also had Rosetta in her tree, married to Mr ? Derry and HER father was detailed as John Derry & mother Grace.
I had thought that this ' relative' had got it wrong - Rosetta was not the daughter of John Derry, - as her maiden name was shown as Parker.

Gets confusing eh?

Anyway, I suppose, my 'relative' could be correct, it could be Rosetta Derry and she had previously been married to a Mr ? Parker - but then Arthurs name is Derry also, so I still believe that Rosetta was:

Rosetta Derry nee Parker who later became Rosetta Mann.

any thoughts?

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Dec 2007 13:59

oooh thats a senior wedding?

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Dec 2007 13:12

or maybe not....


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John Derry Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 NOV 1806 Barrow Upon Soar, Leicester, England

Death: 15 DEC 1806


unless they had 2?

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Dec 2007 13:10

this your John?


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JOHN DERRY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 NOV 1806 Barrow Upon Soar, Leicester, England

Parents:
Father: JOSHUA DERRY Family
Mother: ELIZTH.

Gillian

Gillian Report 5 Dec 2007 13:07

I am trying to trace 'backwards' and have the name of who their son married :
Rosetta Parker born c1853-

I sit pos to find John & Grace in a later census?

Also, is it pos to find a Derry/Parker marriage around 1873ish???

This info may help to confirm (or not), whether we have found the right John & Grace.

Many thanks for your help

Gillian

Gillian Report 5 Dec 2007 12:40

Looking for the marriage of :
John Derry born 1804 & Grace 1809 nee-? (Leicester)?
and details of their children.

Can anyone help please find their marriage and find them in the 1841 census???

Thank you