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census help please

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Shane

Shane Report 10 Dec 2007 18:49

I would appreciate some help in finding on the 1851 census, details of Maria Sparrow bc 1796 in the Stroud, Gloucestershire area. Her 1841 census is below.

1841 Census

Address: Whiteshill, Stroud

Maria Sparrow age 45 abt 1796 Gloucestershire,

Matilda Sparrow age 20 abt 1821 Gloucestershire,

Sarah Sparrow age 15 abt 1826 Gloucestershire,

Charles Bullock age 20 abt 1821 Gloucestershire, occ: agr lab

Thank you for looking at my request.
Shane

Joan

Joan Report 10 Dec 2007 19:01

Shane,

I think I found Sarah Sparrow in 1851--no Maria.

1851 England Census
about Sarah Sparrow
Name: Sarah Sparrow
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hasfield, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Tewkesbury
Town: Tewkesbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Deerhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 6c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Halford 48
Clara Halford 4
Elizabeth Halford 38
Jane Elizabeth Halford 7
Sarah Sparrow 26


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2007 19:01

cant see Maria on any cen sus after 1841 can follow daughter Matilda tho thro to her death in 1887

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2007 19:03

poss death but no age given
Name: Maria Sparrow
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Stroud (1837 Onw)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 207 (click to see others on page)

Joan

Joan Report 10 Dec 2007 19:04

Could Maria have married?

Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
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Dunn Philip Tewkesbury 6a 575
RODGERSON George Tewkesbury 6a 575
Sparrow Maria Tewkesbury 6a 575
Sparrow Mavin Tewkesbury 6a 575

Shane

Shane Report 10 Dec 2007 19:09

Dear Joan,
Thank you so much for responding to my request. It is interesting to note that Sarah birthplace is given as Hasfield, Stroud. I suppose that Maria must have died before 1851, so I will have to look for her death before then
Shane

Dear Shirley,
I would be very interested, if you had the time, to have the details for Matilda through to her death. She is not my direct line (that is her brother) but I think that her information may provide me with extra clues.
Thank you very mcuh for your time.
Shane

Shane

Shane Report 10 Dec 2007 19:17

You two are so quick.....
First here are the bp details that I have for Sarah Sparrow for your reference.
SPARROW, Sarah (da)
Parents : William & Maria
Occupation: labourer
Address : Whiteshill
Baptised : 12 Sep 1824, Stroud St Lawrence

I am very interested in the marriage and death reference information that you have kindly given to me.

I am just thinking aloud but if it is my Maria marrying and dying later than 1851 then shouldn't she be on the 1851 census?

Thanks for your help.
Shane

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2007 19:20

Shane will do!!

no 1851 .census listed
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1861

Name: Matilda Sparrow
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stroud, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Stroud
Ecclesiastical parish: Whiteshill
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:Whitehill

Occupation:Laundress

Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Stroud
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Sparrow 12
Edwin Sparrow 18
Henry Sparrow 9
Matilda Sparrow 40

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1775; Folio: 62; Page: 17; GSU roll: 542866.

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1871
Name: Matilda Sparrow
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Whiteshill, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Stroud
Ecclesiastical parish: Whiteshill
Town: Paganhill
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Stroud
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name
Henry Sparrow 19
Matilda Sparrow 50


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2635; Folio: 47; Page: 17; GSU roll: 835323


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1881
Name: Matilda Sparrow
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Whiteshill, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Stroud
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: Whiteshill
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Laundress

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Stroud
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Sparrow 29
Matilda Sparrow 60


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2546; Folio: 32; Page: 22; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341614.
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death

Matilda Sparrow
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 66
District: Stroud (1837 Onw)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 217 (click to see others on page)



Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2007 19:22

this branch of the sparrow family just arent showing on the 1851 . they should be there but !!

Shane

Shane Report 10 Dec 2007 19:29

Dear Shirley,
Thank you once again for continuing to help me.

I assumed that Matilda was the daughter of Maria but obviously the 1841 census does not have relationship details, therefore it is possible that Matilda was her daughter-in-law. This would explain why she is a mother on the following censuses. Do you agree?

Shane

P.s. What a pity about the 1851 census. Thank you for looking for me

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2007 20:12

pos her daughter in law Matilda is described as Mother on the 1871 but she only has Henry with her . shes consistently described as a widow tho altho this can be a smoke screen for an unmarried lady . unfortunately the relationships aren't described on the 1841 but as matilda is only 20 then one would assume she was Maria's daughter.

We shouldnt assume i know but unless you can prove anything else its a possibility