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Thank you kathryn,for all your help,very much appreciated ,you have given me some good leads to go on.
best wishes
from
susan.

Found what would seem to be Margaret's first marriage, if that helps at all:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

searched for Williams marriage to Farr, 1908 to 1918:


Marriages Mar 1915
Farr Alfred Williams Bedwellty 11a 246
Williams Maggie Farr Bedwellty 11a 246


One might think he died in the war. There are several A Farrs at

http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14

without ages or next of kin; no way of knowing.


The 1918 marriage was relatively early in the year, so if Walter's age on his marriage certificate works out to a birthdate of 1881, there's a good chance he was born in 1880 or early 1881.

The 1881 census is free-access at Ancestry, if you aren't subscribed there.

I'd suggest doing a search of that census year for Walter Jones born 1881 +/- 1 year (to catch 1880 and 1881) with father William -- no other details. Then look at the results for each country, starting with Wales.

The records there show occupations in the individual records, w/o having to open the images.


I checked this father of a Walter:


Name: William Jones
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Mold, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Mold
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street address: 106 Cilcen Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Watchmaker

Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Mold


-- occupation watchmaker. No good. Next one I tried was a confectioner and butcher. (Ew.) Then a boiler maker. And of course a coalminer. You could try your luck! Try also searching for William Jones, occupation fireman.


Here's a youngish one:


Name: William Jones
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jonathan
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Penderyn, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Penderyn
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Merthyr Rd
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Fireman In Colliery

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare


There are actually well over a dozen firemen Williams-s in Wales in 1881, including a couple of other colliery firemen. And about as many more in England ...

trying to find any info on walter jones born 1881 i think in wales married for the second time to margaret farr nee williams born 1891 both were widowed,second marriage took place at merthyr tydfil register office 6th august 1918 they were living at 3 middle row butetown rhymney bridge near merthyr tydfil he was a coal miner.father william ( colliery fireman )deceased at the time of the marriage,and so was margaret's father david williams( coal miner) if anybody can help me,i have hit a brick wall i would be very grateful.
best wishes
susan.