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Desperatly searching for PAUL GODFREY who possible lives in the USA who posted a search on ancestory .co.uk website in Dec 2000, who is looking for his half Brother ALBERT FREDRICK WILLIAM JAMES GODFREY born 16/3/1920 son of EDWARD GEORGE born 27/2/1987 both from Hatherleigh North Devon England.
Paul if you are out there or any relatives of Paul please please make contact me ASAP either via this web-site or on [email protected] .co.uk as i think we have a shared interest in your search with a very strong connection which we can compare. thanks John.
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Just in case this isn't info you already have, John:
Name: Albert Fred Wm Godfrey
Arrival Date: May 1924
Age: 4 years 2 months
Birth Date: abt 1920
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Name: Edward George Godfrey
Arrival Date: Mar 1924
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1898
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
It appears they may have stayed in Canada; at least they were here for a while:
Name: Edward George Godfrey
Birth Place: England
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Father Name: Edward Godfrey
Mother Name: Mary Brandrick
Spouse Name: May Newby
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Spouse Birth Place: England
Spouse Father Name: Valter Newby
Spouse Mother Name: Bessie Williams
Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1924
Marriage Place: York
Marriage County: York
Registration district: York
Family History Library Microfilm: VRMCAN1923_102593
Do you know for a certainty that they relocated in the US, or would it be worth trying to find some info in Canada?
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I looked at the passenger list for Albert, and he seems to have been unaccompanied. Looking again at the sequence of records:
Edward travelled to Canada in March 1924
Edward married in Canada in April 1924
Albert travelled to Canada in May 1924
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Hi Kathryn, thanks for that abo interesting, I have been struggling to get any info and you have been a great help.
tell me how did you come up with this info on my belhalf, is it some thing that you do as a pastime or are you part of a organisation into family research, Interested to know
I think I will take the route of May Newby to see if i can find any relatives thay direction, thanks again for this important info
John
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It's a pastime ... it passes the time when I should be working. ;)
I subscribe to Ancestry's Canadian records (I'm in Canada), and started out with just one of those general searches for one of the names. Missing people often turn up here. ;) They came up on the passenger records and the marriage record. At first I couldn't figure out why the kiddie was alone on the list of passenger names on the image, then I sorted the chronology out.
Couldn't find anything later though. There was a later record of an Edward Godfrey crossing the border at Buffalo or some such, and I thought that could be your guy moving south, but it didn't seem to match up, and then I saw the typed notation at the top of the record saying his name was Godfrey had had been legally changed from Greenberg, so not yours then, I guess.
There's virtually nothing that can be done to look for them later, though. I did poke through what there is on line for obituaries (google *ontario obituaries* for the site or two), but found nothing. And the name's too common for on-line phone book searches, and even Albert is likely deceased by now.
But hmm. The 1930 US census -- I don't subscribe for those records so I can't give you the details -- does have this entry:
Edward Godfrey
city, Woodbury, IA
born abt 1898 in Canada
but no other likely-looking Godfreys associated with him in Woodbury.
I don't see the Newbys in the 1911 census, so they must have immigrated later. The great thing is that the marriage record gives both parents' full names. Although I don't see a marriage in England for the Newbys ...
PM me an email address and I'll send you a copy of the marriage certificate. It also has witnesses' names and hsays that Edward was an auto mechanic and a bachelor (beats proving death of wife in another country?) and May was a hairdresser. Was the marriage pre-arranged, do you suppose, or did Edward try his luck in Canada, find a bride, and send for his son?
Other Newby marriages in York county (Toronto), some of whom could possibly be siblings, FYI:
Agnes Alice Newby abt 1892 20 Oct 1919 Thomas Montpool York
Elizabeth Newby abt 1892 3 May 1911 Thomas Lennard York
Elizabeth Newby 3 May 1911 Thomas Lennard York
Emma L Newby abt 1888 24 Jun 1914 Leonard S McRae York
Ethel Newby abt 1895 27 Feb 1919 Samuel John Ellis York
Florence Gertrude Newby abt 1880 30 Jul 1910 Percy Humphrey York
Ivy G H Newby abt 1901 18 Nov 1922 Cecil O Bennett York
Jeanie Newby abt 1887 17 Jul 1909 Victor Hartley Crispie York
John H Newby abt 1890 17 Jan 1914 Rose Leonnard York
Louie Newby abt 1886 12 Mar 1915 Bertram Griffin York
Oh duh. You can search by parents' names. None of those marriages had the same parents as May.
Possibly May came to Canada on her own as a young adult too. How about this one from findmypast? --
NEWBY May 19 F 1921 Liverpool Canada Saint John Nb
You're very welcome!
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btw, looking for your Paul Godfrey in Canada is virtually impossible, because of this Paul Godfrey:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Godfrey
loooong time Toronto politician, newspaper publisher, sports team president and all-round Tory backroom boy, born in 1939. He was one of the Jewish Godfreys too, though.
The Paul Godfrey you are looking for would presumably have been born in the mid-late 1920s. He was getting on in years when he wrote those messages.
I found one P Godfrey in Toronto at
http://findaperson.canada-411.ca
Checking the address in reverse, it is the highrise building that can be seen for that address at google maps on satellite view. (Google tends to aim its green arrow in the middle of roads, which meant it could have been a house on one side of the street or the highrise on the other. So I asked for all listings at the address P Godfrey is at, and there are 75.)
It doesn't strike me as a place where *the* Paul Godfrey would be living, and I imagine his phone number is unlisted. So it would be some other P Godfrey. Could be yours, you never know.
Ah ... there are also P Godfreys in Etobicoke, Scarborough ... search there for Ontario generally, and anything with a 416 or 905 area code is Toronto or its burbs. There is also a Paul specifically in a small city a couple of hours northeast of Toronto.
You'll come up with a dozen or so listings that you might want to send a form letter to, just on the chance that the Godfreys did stay in the Toronto area.
There are 144 Newby listings in Ontario ...
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