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Descendants of Charlotte Elsarine/a Mann

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Lisa

Lisa Report 16 Dec 2007 12:12

john and charlotte mann 10 years earlier (1881)

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John MANN Head M Male 33 Navestock, Essex, England Ag Lab
Charlotte MANN Wife M Female 28 Navestock, Essex, England
Mary Ann MANN Daur U Female 12 Stepney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Isaac MANN Son Male 9 Stepney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Stephen MANN Son Male 7 Stepney, Middlesex, England Scholar
John MANN Son Male 4 Millwall, Middlesex, England Scholar
Theresa MANN Daur Female 2 Millwall, Middlesex, England
Annie MANN Daur Female 3 m Orsett, Essex, England

Source Information:
Dwelling Orsett Heath Caravan
Census Place Orsett, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341422
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1754 / 24
Page Number 16

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to recap:
charlotte elsarine mann's siblings are:

mary ann 1869 stepney
isaac 1872 stepney
stephen 1874 stepney
john 1877 millwall middx
theresa 1879 millwall middx
annie 1880 orsett
charlotte (your one) 1883
alfred 1886
william 1889

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i think this is their parents marriage:

Marriages Jun 1865
Mann John St Saviour 1d 24
Whitfield Charlotte Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 24


Lisa

Lisa Report 16 Dec 2007 11:47

found this in 1901:
living GRAYS THURROCK

Henry Oakley 19 London Whitechapel Labourer Chalk Quarries
Charlotte Oakley 18 Essex Little Thurrock

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if this is them, then this could be charlotte with parents and siblings in 1891:

Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation
Disability Where Born

MANN, John Head Married M 45 Labourer Navestock
MANN, Charlotte Wife Married F 40 Navestock
MANN, Isaac Son Single M 20 Labourer Stepney
MANN, John Son Single M 15 Labourer Millwall
MANN, Ann Daughter Single F 10 Orsett Essex
MANN, Charlotte Daughter Single F 8 Grays Essex
MANN, Alfred Son Single M 5 Grays Essex
MANN, William Son Single M 3 Grays Essex

RG number:
RG12 Piece:1377 Folio:75 Page:33

Registration District:
Orsett Sub District:Grays EnumerationDistrict:
17 Ecclesiastical Parish:Grays Thurrock

Civil Parish:Grays Thurrock Municipal Borough:
Address:49, Bond Street, Grays Thurrock County:
Essex

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this could be henry in 1891:

Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation
Disability Where Born

STANS, John Head Married M 49 Farm Labourer
Rettendon Suffolk
STANS, Mary A Wife Married F 38 Walworth
STANS, Ernest Son Single M 13 Farm Labourer South Ockendon
STANS, Sydney Son Single M 7 Scholar South Ockendon
STANS, Gertrude Daughter Single F 3 South Ockendon
OAKLEY, Mary A Daughter Single F 14 Whitechapel
OAKLEY, Thomas Son Single M 12 Farm Labourer Bethnal Green
OAKLEY, Henry Son Single M 9 Scholar Camberwell



RG number:RG12 Piece:375 Folio:15 Page:6

Registration District:Orsett Sub District:Grays EnumerationDistrict:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:South Ockendon
Civil Parish:South Ockendon Municipal Borough:
Address:North Road, South Ockendon County:
Essex

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henrys father must have died and the mother remarried:

Marriages Mar 1887
Oakley Mary Ann Orsett 4a 251
STARNS John Orsett 4a 251


Lisa

Lisa Report 16 Dec 2007 11:42

starting at the beginning:

if you get their marriage certificate you will be able to find fathers names and them / siblings on 1891/1881 census etc... (cert from www.gro.gov.uk)

Marriages Sep 1900
Mann Charlotte Elserine Orsett 4a 801
Oakley Henry David Orsett 4a 801


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found this too:
Births Dec 1911
Oakley Violet E Mann Orsett 4a 1168

Births Jun 1914
Oakley John S (Mann) Orsett 4a 1205

Births Dec 1919
Oakley Edward E (Mann) Orsett 4a 1255


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you say that henry was born c1860 orsett. the only henry i can find that matches this description is in 1901 with harriet, living in romford:

Henry J Oakley 41 Essex Orsett Laboror Engineer
Harriett Oakley 30 Essex Stratford

he married in west ham in 1894:
Marriages Sep 1894
Oakley Henry John W.Ham 4a 139
Reeves Harriett West Ham 4a 139

Beverley

Beverley Report 16 Dec 2007 09:07

My Great-Grandmother was Charlotte Elsarine/a Mann (Married to Henry Oakley b c1860 Orsett). I am looking to find any siblings/other family members of hers. I think she may have had a brother called William, who in turn had a son called Bertie. I think Berties mother died in childbirth or shortly after.
Regards Bev