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Thanks for your input, Mary from Italy, I'll be fascinated in that website, I have ordered quite a few death certs and can't fathom most of the causes.

I was surprised in this case that the "oma" was the secondary cause, the exhaustion was the primary cause. Or perhaps it was just the limit of the medical knowledge then, that she appeared to die of exhaustion, although suffering from that condition. She was 73 so lived a good age for her time.

Mary,
Thanks,
I was beginning to think she had VD lol

Thanks for the link, I'll bookmark it.

Cheers
MaryMc

No such thing as " maemic convulsions" as far as I know; in conjunction with Bright's disease it's probably "uraemic convulsions".

VDH is probably "valvular disease of the heart", which I think is a fairly old-fashioned term.

You can often find antiquated medical terminology here:

http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/Index.htm

Also (if you have time!)

Bright's disease - Chronic inflammatory disease of kidneys

and Maemic Convulsions - I don't think the word Maemic is correct. Perahaps it should be Haemic?

What do you think?

MaryMc

Mary,
Here's a death cause I'd love to know about - maybe you can look it up for me.

The lady in question died of:

a) bronchitis (know what that is obviuosly!)

and

b) V.D.H.

Any ideas?

MaryMc

Yes, people are usually very restrained on the Tips and Record Office Boards, although a certain amount of storming off goes on over on the General Board.

As far as Christmas day goes, I bet most people look in, but not many admit it :-)

Mary,
Yes, I see MaryMc's all over the internet too - very confusing lol

And with all due respect, looking in a medical dictionary is not the same as being a highly qualified ( of many, many years of study) advanced paramedic. And our Paramedics here in NZ are some of the most highly trained in the world. And embarrassed is something he certainly never gets.

However, we do all seem to agree that the poor bloke did have some sort of cancer and he is most certainly dead lol

It's been a good discussion - it's also been great that we've all been able to put forward our opinions and nobody had stormed off and left the board - unlike many other boards on the internet. I'm sure you've seen that too lol.

Well, Happy Christmas to you all, hope you and yours all have a wonderful time!

Ps - How many of us will be sneaking in here on Christmas day - you know, just for a 'quick look' lol

MaryMc

By the way, Mary, your username always makes me do a double-take, because MaryMC's the name I use on other sites - I keep looking at your posts and wondering when I wrote them :-)

OK, last try, then I'll drop it. I reckon your son (with all due respect) was embarrassed to say he didn't know what the word meant, heard the ending -oma, which does indeed indicate a tumour that can be either malignant or benign, and assumed that the word meant some kind of tumour. That's why he couldn't be precise about it.

I'm not a doctor, but a medical translator - I have a huge pile of medical dictionaries and other resources, and if a word exists, I can normally find it. I'd bet my bottom dollar that this one doesn't, if only because the etymology doesn't make any sense.

Hi Mary,
Yes, I know what the word Carcinoma means - however I am happy to take my sons word for it. He didn't find it in Google, he learned it at University while taking his degree in Health Science - Advanced Paramedic.

I'm also with Mary - no-ones getting cross :)

Mary

Don't worry, nobody's getting cross :-)

Thanks for everyone's input, sorry to have caused so much friction!

Marilyn and MaryMc, I'm sorry, I do know what I'm talking about.

The word is carcinoma. It means cancer.

If you don't believe me, just look in any medical dictionary. I have a whole pile of them here.

This thread is a good demonstration of the fact that you can't just rely on any old thing you find on Google. If you look at all those hits for areinoma you'll see that the texts have been badly OCR'd, and should say "carcinoma".

The first hit's a good example: it says "cell line of hum an lung adenoc areinoma", but it should say "cell line of human lung adenocarcinoma".

I shall be happy to eat my words if anyone can find areinoma in a dictionary.

Nudge for Iris

Ok,
I asked my son - he's an advanced Paramedic.

His answer "I can't be precise; however, it is a form of tumorous growth (not
necessarily malignant)."

MaryMc

It does exist .It's a form of cancer.You can get it all over. Even in the breast.
Marilyn

or is it this?

arrhenoma - testicular cancer

I wonder if it says this??

uri·no·ma

: a cyst that contains urine

Sorry, but I'm afraid the word really doesn't exist. You won't find it in any medical dictionary. All those alleged hits on google are typos, mostly for carcinoma, caused by OCR programs.

Well, I just found someone who had AREINOMA of the rectum on Google!

Maybe not always the lips then.

MaryMc