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Have 1881 census can someone do 1891 please!!

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♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 17 Dec 2007 23:18

1881 census

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Margaret CARNEY Head W Female 52 Ireland Housekeeper
Peter CARNEY Son U Male 25 L'Pool, Lancashire, England Hairdresser
Richard CARNEY Son U Male 17 Ireland Hairdresser


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Source Information:
Dwelling 150 Burlington St
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341861
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3596 / 136
Page Number 53


Really Nicholas aged 17 here that I am looking for. But mother and rest of brothers would be good as well.

Many Thanks Betty

Diane

Diane Report 17 Dec 2007 23:30

Hi Betty
I assumed you meant Richard not Nicholas is this a possible

Richard Carney
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 12 South York Street
Occupation: Barber
ED: 61
Page: 16 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 96
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1891_287
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Carney 51
Richard Carney 26

Diane

Diane Report 17 Dec 2007 23:32

Possible for Richard in 1901

Richard Carney
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 53 Mcneil St
Occupation: Hair Dresser
ED: 60
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 105
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_310
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Carney 2
Elizabeth Carney 4
Jane Carney 8mo
Margaret Carney 6
Mary Ellen Carney 35
Mary Josephine Carney 8
Richard Carney 39

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 17 Dec 2007 23:36

Sorry Diane,

I put the wrong damed census on, it should have been this one Nicholas aged 7 but the info you have given me is great, thank you!!

Betty

1861


RG9/2656 Folio 81 Page 25
Porter St, Liverpool - St Martin

Nicholas Carney, 41, boarding house keeper, b. Ireland
Margaret, 34, b. Ireland
William, 14, brass foundr, b. Ireland
Nicholas, 7, b. Liverpool
Peter, 4, b. Liverpool
Thomas, 2, b. Liverpool
Margaret Deran or Doran, serv, 14
Edit | Delete | Add

Diane

Diane Report 17 Dec 2007 23:43

just checking back found Nicholas age 7 on 1861 will see if I can find him

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 17 Dec 2007 23:47

Thanks Diane!!

I had a stupid moment there!! I know Nicholas Died in Lanark Scotland. He died aged 57 in 1911.


Betty.

Diane

Diane Report 17 Dec 2007 23:56

Possible for Thomas in 1871 in a Boys refuge

Thomas Carney
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:shoemaker

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Anderbury 10
Joseph Bretherton 12
Joseph Burns 8
Anthony Canning 11
Thomas Carney 12
Mary Cavanagh 27
James Confitt 13
Peter Conigan 13
James Cossigan 11
Patrick Cuff 13
Ellen Davies 18
William Deering 10
James Delaney 12
Nicholas Devereux 10
Lawrence Dickinson 11
Thomas Dickinson 8
Nicholas Donovan 15
Thomas Douthwaite 23
John Dowling 13
Michael Doyle 11
Martin Durkin 11
Joseph Evans 5
Homer Farrell 13
John Farrell 13
Richard Fleming 13
Herbert Gannon 14
James Garvey 8
John Garvey 12
Henry Gill 10
Edward Graham 12
Patrick Hanley 12
James Harrison 14
Thomas Henry 12
Joseph Hudson 12
Edward J Ingham 11
Michael Kearns 11
Patrick Keefe 10
Patrick Lanagan 10
Patrick Lyons 11
Henry Maders 11
John Maders 10
Patrick Maher 12
Patrick May 11
William McConville 11
Daniel McDonald 12
Hugh Murray 10
Michael O'Donnell 11
Michael Ogorman 10
James Oneil 12
James Oneil 14
Richard Pendar 9
Thomas Riley 11
Peter Roderick 13
John Roscoe 10
Thomas Rowan 11
John Ryan 11
Thomas Sands 10
George J Smith 12
Matthew Spain 11
Daniel Threlfall 20
Martin Tocker 10
John Walker 11
Thomas Whelan 10


Possible for 1881

Thomas Carney
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 24 Holden St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Linen Draper

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carney 22
Thomas Carney 22


Thomas in 1881

Margaret Carney
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos.
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 22 Ascot St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony Carney
Catherine Carney 22
Margaret Carney 2
Mary E. Carney 4
Thos. Carney 28

In 1891

Thomas Carney
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony Carney 10
Catherine Carney 31
Catherine Carney 8
James Carney 11/12
Margt Carney 12
Mary Ellen Carney 14
Thomas Carney 38
Thomas Carney 6

In 1901

Thomas Carney
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin in the Fields
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 332
Household Members: Name Age
Antony Carney 20
Catherine Carney 41
Catherine Carney 18
James Carney 10
John Carney 3
Michael Carney 8
Patrick Carney 5
Thomas Carney 48




♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 18 Dec 2007 00:02

Thank again Diane,

Really appreciate all your help.

Diane

Diane Report 18 Dec 2007 00:28

Possibly Peter in 1891

Peter Carney
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margret
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Howard Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Broniea Carney 4
Christopher Carney 1
Jessie Carney 6
Margret Carney 38
Peter Carney 37
Peter Carney 14

In 1901
Peter Carney
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
Christie J Carney 11
Margaret Carney 44
Mary I Carney 4
Peter Carney 40
Teresa Carney 16
Thomas Carney 8
Veronica Carney 14


Diane

Diane Report 18 Dec 2007 00:29

Haven't found the family Margaret and Nicholas (father) in 1871 ?possibly in Ireland as Richard was born there in 1864

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 18 Dec 2007 00:35

Hi Diane,

Thanks again for all your help and all this information, looks like they went back and forward from Ireland then Liverpool and ended up in Lanark Scotland. My Nicholas Carney (hairdresser) died in Lanark in 1911 aged 57 his wife Margaret Carney died in Dundee in 1934 aged 70.
Again really, really appreciate all the help you have given me.

Betty

Diane

Diane Report 18 Dec 2007 00:51

Nicholas? possible in 1901

Nicholas Carney
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margerite
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 426
Registration district: Dysart
Civil Parish: Dysart
Town: Dysart
County: Fife
Address: 3 Dovecot Crescent
Occupation: General Labourer
ED: 3
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 71
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1901_137
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Carney 15 born England spinner in flaxmill
Francis Carney 6 born Ireland
Joseph Carney 4 born Ireland
Margerite Carney 47 born Ireland
Margerite A Carney 21 born Ireland spinner flaxmill
Nicholas Carney 53 general labourer
Nicholas Carney 14 born England millworker
Patrick Carney 11 born Ireland
Teresa Carney 16 born Ireland spinner flaximll

Unable to find any likely censuses possibly if this is them going backwards and forwards from England to Ireland looking at where the children were born Hope this helps

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 18 Dec 2007 00:56

Hi Diane,

Thanks for that one, it isn't my Nicholas and Margaret though, well I didn't think it was but now you have made me think twice about it.
Nicholas was 57 when he died in Lanark 1911.

Betty

Diane

Diane Report 18 Dec 2007 01:42

Maybe he had to work as a labourer for some reason ?? perhaps to get money together to set up in business due to the family's travels to and from Ireland just thinking out loud really The Thomas I found was a linen draper in 1881, an engineer's labourer in 1891 and then a commercial traveller (draper) in 1901. Not able to find a good lead on William as there are no brass founders on censuses after the 1861

Diane

Diane Report 18 Dec 2007 02:06

??? Possible for William in 1901
William Carney
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 625/1
Registration district: Bothwell
Civil Parish: Bothwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Fallside Road Jubilee Rows
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 2A
Page: 10 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 334
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_246
Household Members: Name Age
Brien Carney 12 born England
Edward Carney 25 born England coal miner
James Carney 12 born England
John Carney 18 born England coal drawer(moved coal carts in the mines)
Margaret Carney 44 born England
Margt Ellen Carney 15 born England
William Carney 52 born Ireland
William Henry Carney 21 born England coal miner
Joseph Croston 32 born England boarder working as a coal miner

If the right one above then 1881

William Carney
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Ryhope
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 5 Tunstall Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coalminer

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 20a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Carney 5
Margaret Carney 27
Mary Ann Carney 8
William Carney 32
William Carney

1891

William Carney
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Hemsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Hemsworth
Town: Kinsley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hemsworth
Sub-registration district: Hemsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Carney 17
James Carney 1
John Carney 8
Margaret Carney 37
Margaret Carney 4
William Carney 44
William Carney 15
Thomas Povey 33