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I wonder if anyone can check any census records for a James William Golding born 1874 in Manchester. He died in 1935 in Southport.

He married a Francis Sumner in the 1890's.

I just can't see any records for him. Maybe I need a fresh pair of eyes to have a look for me.

Many thanks

Simon.

marriage?
James Golding 1896 Jul-Aug-Sep Ormskirk Lancashire
Frances Sumner 1896 Jul-Aug-Sep Ormskirk Lancashire

1901:
Jas Wm Gaulding
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Birkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Formby

Fanny Gaulding 23
Jas Wm Gaulding 27
Robert Gaulding 4
Fannie Goulding 3 weeks
James W Goulding 11 months

Do you know who James's parents were?

How certain are you that he married Frances?

Marriages Sep 1896
GLEAVE William Henry Ormskirk 8b 1283
...>>>GOLDING James Ormskirk 8b 1283
Howard Minnie Ormskirk 8b 1283
Sumner Frances Ormskirk 8b 1283

Fairly sure!!
1901:
William H Gleave Minnie abt 1874 Birkdale, Lancashire, England Head Southport Lancashire

In the 1901, James is a marine stores labourer and Fanny was born in Southport.
Address 42 Chatham Rd, Birkdale

Thank-you everyone for the information.

Much appreciated.

I don't know you James Golding parents were?

Can anyone see them on any census for me please?

Many thanks

Simon.

There is no James William Golding birth registered in 1874, but there is this one registered in the first qtr. of 1875 (the birth could have been late 1874). However it is in London and not Manchester:-

James William Golding
March. qtr. 1875, St. Olave, 1d, 241.

Could he have been born London and then moved to Manchester at a young age so thought that was where he was born?

My grandfather always said he was born in County Durham (which is where he mostly lived) but he was actually born in London.

Kath. x

This is possibly the James whom Kathleen found.

1881 England Census
Name: James Golding
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Merstham, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Dover St Mary Virgin
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: Limekiln St 59

Occupation: Railway Clerk
Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Golding 32
Louisa A. Golding 37 - b. Spitafields, Middlesex
Louisa A. Golding 7 - b. Bermondsey, Surrey
...>>>James W. Golding 6 - scholar; b. Bermondsey
Frank G. Golding 5 - b. Bermondsey, Surrey
Harry Golding 3 - b. Islington, Middlesex
Charles Golding 1 - b. Dover, Kent
Kate E. Godfrey 35 - sister-in-law

Somehow I don't think he's your man.

1891 England Census
Name: James W Golding
[James W Collins] This is an alternate name!! No reason given.
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: St Mary The Virgin
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 60 Limekiln Street

Occupation: Railway Clerk

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rose E Ayres 16
Charles S Golding 11
Frank G Golding 15
George Golding 7
Harry Golding 13
James Golding 43 - Railway Clerk
James W Golding 16
John Golding 6
Louisa A Golding 17
Louisa Ann Golding 46
Olivia Golding 33
Percy Ed Golding 9
Violet K E Golding 1
William W Golding 11

1901 - definitely not your man. He's a boarder not a daughter so these are not his parents. He's a tram conductor.

James W Golding Edward D, Elizabeth C abt 1875 Bermondsey, London, England Daughter Camberwell London

Only Goldings found in Manchester between 1871 & 1881.

Births Jun 1872
GOLDING Richard Manchester 8d 317

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Births Mar 1874
Golding Henrietta Mary Manchester 8d 397

Here's a possibility.

Births Jun 1873
Golding James Oldham 8d 658


OR

Births Mar 1871
Goulding James Manchester 8d 327

Looks like you'll have to get the marriage cert to find out who his father is.

Ozi.

Thanks Ozibird for trying.

I think the James Goulding you found who was born in 1871 just might be the one I am looking for.

I've just found out that his father was called Thomas Goulding, but don't know where he was born.

I think I might order the birth certificate after Christmas to see if he is definately the one I'm looking for.

Thanks again

Simon.

Waddya reckon?

1881 England Census
Name: James Goulding
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Aspull, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Aspull
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 3 Worrals Square

Occupation: Drawer In Coal Pit

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Goulding 35
Jane Goulding 42
Elizabeth Goulding 15
James Goulding 12
William Goulding 10
Ellen Goulding 8
Thomas Goulding 6
Jane Goulding 3
Enoch Goulding 1

No. Here he is in 1901.

James Goulding Thomas, Jane abt 1869 Aspull, Lancashire, England Son Aspull Lancashire

I don't think its him Ozibird.

He was definitely was born in the 1870's
in the Manchester area.

In the 1901 census he is 27 years old, so that would put his birth year at 1874.

In the census they put his name down as Jas William Goulding, so I'm guessing that Jas was short for James in those days.

The strange thing is that I can't see him on the 1881 census.

So where did his father come from?

Thanks for the help Ozibird.

Much appreciated.

Simon.

Yes Jas is an abbreviation for James, as is Thos for Thomas.

Ozi.