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And there is still no marriage that remotely resembles Charles Beaver + Margaret Sandoe.
No Charles Beaver + Margaret marriage, no Margaret Sandoe + anyone marriage.
So my next suggestion is: order the birth certificate for Louisa and see what on earth her mother's name is:
Name: Louisa Margaret Beaver
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 228
Oh, doggy, here we are -- in 1871:
Name: Margaret Sandal
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 109
Sarah Rick 67
James Sandal 6
Jessie Sandal 1
Margaret Sandal 13
Sarah Sandal 42
Isaac off on the high seas again, presumably.
But Isaac and Sarah weren't married until 1863. So is Margaret a pre-marriage child of their marriage? Or a child of Isaac and someone else? I considered her being a child of Sarah Swayne, but no Margaret Swayne in the births. (No Emma Caroline Swayne, either.)
So in 1871, Margaret, who is older than Emma Caroline, is living with Isaac's wife Sarah -- while Emma Caroline is off being a domestic servant:
Name: Emma Sandel
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Stratford Le Bow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Sounds like an evil stepmother, to me. Emma is later living with Jane Annie Sandoe Searles, whose relationship to them all we still don't know.
-- edit -- error -- I keep getting mixed up -- it was Isaac's daughter from his marriage to Sarah Swayne, Sarah Jessie, who was living with Jane Annie Sandoe Searles in 1881.
-- edited again -- let's see whether I can keep this straight now (just edited the next post too) -- it was Jessie Hocking Sandoe who was living with Jane Annie Hocking Sandoe Searles in 1881.
Oh look.
Name: Jane Hocking Sandoc
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Falmouth
County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 191
Now what was that bloody Hocking connection ...
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Name: Henry Sandoe + Jessie Hocking
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Falmouth
County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 381
-- that's Jessie Sandoe, widow, with whom Jane Sandoe was living in 1871. Obviously, her mother. Except she isn't in her mother's household in 1861.
That's because she was with her maternal grandparents in 1861:
Name: Jane H Sandoe
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Mylor, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Mylor
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub-registration district: Mylor
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Household schedule number: 72
Jane Hocking 55
William Hocking 56
Jane H Sandoe 5
That seems to be Jane sorted. The family relationship between Henry Sandoe and Isaac Sandoe is not clear. But for some reason, Henry's daughter Jane (Searles) and Isaac's daughter Sarah Jessie are roomies in 1881.
Edit -- nononono, got it wrong again. Jane Annie Hocking Sandoe Searles is roomies with her own sister, Jessie Hocking Sandoe, in 1881. I was all wrong about that being Isaac's daughter.
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Duh. Henry Sandoe *is* Isaac's brother:
HENRY JAMES SANDO
Christening: 27 JAN 1828 Kenwyn, Cornwall, England
Father: STEPHEN SANDO
Mother: ELIZABETH
......... although there is actually no Henry in the widow Elizabeth's household in 1841 ............
And the husband of Jessie is shown as born in Mylor, which is Falmouth, not Truro ..........
This looks like Isaac's brother Henry in 1861:
Name: Henry Sandow
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Where born: Kenwyn, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Agnes
Ecclesiastical parish: Mount Hawke
County/Island: Cornwall
So Henry Sandoe, father of Jane Annie and Jessie, must be just a cousin or some such.
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Margaret?
Yoo hoo, Margaret!!!!!!!
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Hi Katherine,
wow you should be a detective i will order some certificates after Christmas
Yes old Sarah Swayne did'nt like poor Emma. I must tell you this My grandfather Henry Stephen Price son of Emma and Henry Edward Price Married my nan Naomi Sandle isn't that a coincidence Sandle is there real name.Thanks so much for all your help i could never have found all that out. Emma and Margaret are still motherless though.By the way all those children were Margarets.
Take care, Lorraine
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Back again i do remember looking up Sandoe on ancestry and finding a Mary Paull she was living with a Sandoe and was under Sandoe ,Margaret was Margaret Mary so could this be Margaret?
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Hi Katherine i have got a copy of Jane Annie Sandoes wedding cert and her father was indeed Isaac Sandoe Mariner so Margaret and Emma have an older sister Jane Annie. They all seem to be without a mother the mind boggles.
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