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23 Dec 2007 08:59 |
Possible entry for her husband's death (the only Elham reg dist death of a Stephen Court between 1861 and 1871):
Deaths Jun 1861 (>99%) Court Stephen Elham 2a 452
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23 Dec 2007 08:34 |
Separating the two Stephens:
The IGI has:
STEPHEN BRANDFORD COURT Male Event(s): Christening: 13 MAY 1827 Folkestone, Kent, England Parents: Father: WM COURT Family Mother: AN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record (P020721); and
STEPHEN COURT Male Event(s): Christening: 24 DEC 1826 Folkestone, Kent, England
Parents: Father: JAS COURT Family Mother: SAR Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record (same batch)
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23 Dec 2007 08:21 |
(duplicated post now deleted)
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23 Dec 2007 08:20 |
OK, now that I have realised (See edited posting above) that I should also be looking for Sus*n*, this then does pick up all the expected people:
the three unmarried sisters from Acrise (Susannah, Elizabeth and Agnes all born around 1830 ish)
the wife of William b abt 1814 in Wootton living in Sibertswold
and more entries for the Susannah A Court you are looking for:
1841
Name: Susanna Court Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Female Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone Hundred: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Comb 45 (Court on image), publican Ann Court 40 Elizabeth Court 7 Henry Court 2 Richard Court 11 Stephen Court 14 Ap Susanna Court 5 William Court 20 Coach painter
(and in 1871 as a widow at 12 Cheriton Villas Christchurch Folkestone with her four unmarried nieces, but I think you had that on one of the other threads?)
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23 Dec 2007 08:06 |
For completeness, here is the Stephen and Mary Ann household in 1861:
Name: Stephen Court Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone St Mary and St Eanswythe Town: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England
Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 5 High Street, Folkestone
Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age Edwd Court 5 Mary Ann Court 32 Stephen Court 33 Sailmaker and greengrocer Stephen Court 6 Susannah Court 7 Mo Margaret Dale 17
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23 Dec 2007 07:55 |
This is the Stephen/Susannah household in 1861, both b Folkestone:
Name: Stephen Court Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susanna Gender: Male Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone Town: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Milldene, 8 Raglan Vil
Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Lydia Austen 19 household servant Stephen Court 34 head mar master Royal Navy half pay Susanna Court 24 wife mar
(I see that Ozibird, that wise bird, had found this for you on one of your other threads)
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23 Dec 2007 07:45 |
Returning to the 1851-1861 period, Free BMD offers three groups of marriages where a Court married in the same district and quarter as a Susannah:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1857 (98%) COURT Stephen Elham 2a 807 COURT Susanna Alice Elham 2a 807 Earl Ann Romney Marsh 2a 807 (in italics on Free BMD, indicating poss error) Marriott Lucy Elham 2a 807 SEAL James Elham 2a 807;
Marriages Dec 1856 Court John Faversham 2a 1055 Eve Susanna Faversham 2a 1055 Noble Elizabeth Ann Faversham 2a 1055; and
Marriages Jun 1852 Bristow Susanna Thanet 2a 831 Court Stephen Thanet 2a 831 Dale Mary Ann Thanet 2a 831 STANLEY Thomas Moore Thanet 2a 831.
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23 Dec 2007 07:39 |
For my ref:
In 1891, Susannah A Court, aged 55 (b approx 1836 in Folkestone), widow, is living on own means in Folkestone (in a separate three room apartment at Mary Fisher's lodging house at 62 Cheriton Road), and these details (other than the living accommodation) match the 64 yr old visitor in 1901 to Edward Dale's household.
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23 Dec 2007 07:25 |
The 1861 on the same criteria has -the same three first listed above for 1851 (i.e. b 1781, 1821 and 1844) -two children b 1857 (see wife below) and 1860 in Folkestone to Stephen and Mary Ann -two wives (poss m since 1851 census), being: b 1812 Woolton, m to William, mother of Susannah b 1857, living in Sibertswold; and b 1835 Boughton m to John, living in Goodnestone.
Will look further
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23 Dec 2007 07:19 |
1851 offers 4 people names Susannah Court (using sus*h [edited - bad choice, should have used sus*n*] court kent ):
as above, b 1781; b 1821 born and living in Folkestone, mother Margaret Court, husband Thomas Harts (married Thomas Hart 1844 per Free BMD); b 1844 in Blean, to William and Hannah living in St Stephen Canterbury;
and this one:
Name: Susannah Court Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Dover Street
Household schedule number: 100 Household Members: Name Age Richard Court 21 unm Victualler's Clerk Stephen Court 23 unm Sailmaker Susannah Court 14 Scholar William Court 56 Head, widower, Victualler and Coal Merchant Susannah Jeffery 14 House Servant
All b Folkestone
Class: HO107; Piece: 1633; Folio: 183; Page: 24; GSU roll: 193536
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23 Dec 2007 07:06 |
Hi Julia
I'll have a look.
In passing, there is this much older Susannah, in Maidstone area rather than Folkestone.
Name: Susannah Court Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Female Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Maidstone Hundred: Maidstone Borough County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Maidstone Sub-registration district: East Maidstone
Household Members: Name Age Joseph Court 25 Mary Court 20 Susannah Court 60
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23 Dec 2007 02:42 |
Thankyou Ivy, sorry this has taken a while but I have been out and busy cooking, you know what it is like at christmas time. You have made my day, what I was interested in was whether Margaret Dale was Edwards mother and it has turned out so. There is one other thing though I notice a Susanna was not on the Census and might be on 1851/1861, any help on that please. I really appreciate your help. Julia
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22 Dec 2007 07:45 |
Name: Edward Dale Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone Hundred: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Dale 2 Edward Dale 36 Edward Dale 11 Henry Dale 6 John Dale 9 Joseph Dale 4 Margaret Dale 36 Mary Dale 13 Richard Dale 7
Class: HO107; Piece 477; Book: 27; Civil Parish: Folkestone; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 26; Page: 4; Line: 11; GSU roll: 306872.
Radnor St, Folkestone; all born Kent; Edward a baker
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22 Dec 2007 07:42 |
Name: Edward Dale Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone Hundred: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Dale 2 Edward Dale 36 Edward Dale 11 Henry Dale 6 John Dale 9 Joseph Dale 4 Margaret Dale 36 Mary Dale 13 Richard Dale 7
Class: HO107; Piece 477; Book: 27; Civil Parish: Folkestone; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 26; Page: 4; Line: 11; GSU roll: 306872.
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22 Dec 2007 06:21 |
Thank you Ivy, just what I wanted but I was wondering if you could possibly look up 1841 Census for me for Edward Dale, I have just come up with something and that would sort it out, it is to do with his mother. maybe Margaret.
Julia
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22 Dec 2007 05:20 |
1891?
Name: Edward H Dale Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Dale 16 Edward H Dale 60 Elizabeth Dale 57 Lizzie Dale 9 Sassanna A Dale 19
Class: RG12; Piece: 748; Folio 125; Page 27; GSU roll: 6095858.
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22 Dec 2007 05:18 |
1871?
Name: Edward A Dale Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Edward A Dale 40 Elizabeth Dale 37 Elizabeth C Dale 9 Mary Dale 8 months William C Dale 5
Class: RG10; Piece: 1014; Folio: 102; Page: 1; GSU roll: 827263.
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22 Dec 2007 04:00 |
I have just found 1881 Census living Harbour Street, Folkestone. Also the marriage in 1859 Albert Henry Dale B1831 Folkestone. I think just an 1871 & 1891 Census would help. Sorry to mess you around Julia
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22 Dec 2007 03:35 |
I have an Elizabeth Court B1834 Folkestone, Kent she was with parents William & Ann in 1841 but nothing until 1901 when I found her married to Edward H Dale B1831 Folkestone. Her sister Susanna was living with them that is how I found them. They have a daughter Susanna A B1872. Any possibility of a follow through from 1841 Census please. Regards Julia
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