Hi The Barrow conection could be a distinct possibility. Louisa was my grandmother. married in Settle Yorks in 1885 age 20 to John Moorby(marriage cert.giving father as Edwin). In 1891 census she is listed as Laura, with 2 children Sarah Elizabeth 3 born Barrow in Furness John Thomas 1 born Settle
In the 1881 census for Barrow there is a Louisa Bartlett 16 in service, but birth place not the midlands. In a later census Louisa gives her birthplace as Bilston Staffs. seems to tie in with the Sophia in 1881 at Barrow. I previously looked at the birth cert for the Louisa 1864 Lichfield and got the mothers name as Cook, and sent for the Marriage Cert of Edwin and Sophia sure that it was the right one. One snag in the 1871 census where is Louisa who would be 6. Still this is one possibility to look into. Thanks Ian T Moorby
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But here's that 1881 household in 1871 in Dalton, Lancashire, with the same stupid mistranscription:
Edwin Barttell 40 Edwin Barttell 2 weeks Harriet Barttell 2 John Thomas Barttell 4 Sophia Barttell 27
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Well hm!!
In 1881:
Name: Edward Barttell -- it says BARTLETT, of course Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sophia Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Barrow in Furness County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 9 North Row Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Iron Miner
Name: Sophia Barttell Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Edward Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England Registration district: Barrow In Furness Sub-registration district: Barrow In Furness ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Edward Barttell 61 Sophia Barttell 38 John T. Barttell 14 Harriet Barttell 12 Edwin Barttell 10 Martha A. Barttell 7 Sarah Barttell 5 William Hy. Bartlett 2 William Keast 35 - boarder Emma E. Keast 10 Thomas I. Keast 6 William G. Keast 15
That couple bears an interesting resemblance to the original couple ... !
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The only birth that remotely resembles your info:
Name: Louisa Bartlett Year of Registration: 1864 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Lichfield County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 341
(There's a Laura born in 1868; no Ellen.)
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Just not having any luck finding any such person in the 1871 or 1881 census.
Could you indicate where your info -- her name, her DOB, her parents' names -- comes from?
FreeBMD does have this list:
Marriages Sep 1863 Bartlett Edwin Penkridge 6b 519 Simmonds Joseph Penkridge 6b 519 WALLBANK Mary Ann Penkridge 6b 519
... with a bride conveniently missing:
Marriages Sep 1863 Cook Sophia Penkridge 6b 579
-- page number obviously mistranscribed. Have you checked the image at
http://www.freebmd.org.uk (or Ancestry)
to submit a correction to FreeBMD?
Did Edwin die before 1871, and Sophia (if that's who he had married) remarry?
Marriages Jun 1868 BARTLETT Sophia Dudley 6c 117 MORGAN David Dudley 6c 117 Wolverston Frances Dudley 6c 117 Worth Daniel Dudley 6c 117
Yup. And add another name for Louisa/Laura. In 1871:
Name: Ellen Bartlett Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's Name: Sophia here born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 42
Ellen Bartlett 10 Charles T Morgan 2 David Morgan 33 Jane Morgan 1 Sophia Morgan 29 John C Odowd 38 Eleanor Pickles 59 James Pickles 63
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emended request to include dates Ian
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Hi Trying to find information re Louisa . Her father was Edwin Bartlett b 1828, and I believe her mother was Sophia Cook b 1843 married 1863 in Cannock. Louisa was born in Staffordshire area in 1864/5 Regards Ian
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