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Robert Motion Macdougall married Margaret Brown and they had 8 children together, Agnes, Alice, John, Margaret, May, Robert, Thomas and William (an artist). Last known address in 1891 was 6 Broomhill Gardens, Govan, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.

Robert was my great-grandfather, Thomas was my grandfather he married Margaret Pearson and they had 4 girls, Margaret, May, Alice and Agnes(My Mum)

My Grandmother was not welcome in the family and lost touch with them after the death of Thomas. Can anyone help me track down marriages of Thomas's siblings or any info that could lead me in the right direction. I believe that William married and moved to London as an artist or teacher.

There is a 5 hour time shift so allow for this if you are asking me questions please. I would hate anyone to think I was rude for now replying promptly.



Veronica in Dundas, ON, Canada

Does this look like the right marriage first?

ROB. MACDOUGALL Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MAGGIE BROWN Family
Marriage:
20 SEP 1865 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

Yes thats the right marriage for my Great Great Grandfather many thanks

Thomas and Margaret married in Cults. 25th April, 1917

Veronica

Do you have the family in the 1901 census?

If they stayed and married in Scotland, then the marriages will be available on Scotlandspeople.gov.uk though it could be a long and expensive search if you dont know spouses names.

Have you tried looking for the deaths of Robert, and Margaret? The informant my be a daughter or son, and from that - if it was a daughter and she had a different last name you'd be able to find her marriage. If she was still single then you could look for a marriage after the date.

Maggie died in February 1921 in Glasgow I believe. This information is from handwritten notes from my cousin so I don't have much. Which is why she and I are trying to pursue this.

I don't have them on the 1901

Veronica

Here's your 1891 census just for reference. Everyone else born Glasgow.

1891 Scotland Census
about Robert MacDougall
Name: Robert MacDougall
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 646/3
Registration district: Partick
Civil Parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 6 Broomhill Garns
Occupation: Accountant & Property Agt
ED: 23
Page: 16 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 60
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1891_306
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes MacDougall 20
Alice E MacDougall 15
John C MacDougall 10
Margaret MacDougall 46
Margaret B MacDougall 17
May C MacDougall 7
Robert MacDougall 48
Robert E MacDougall 12
Thomas T MacDougall 19 Apprentice engineer
William B MacDougall 22 Artist landscape figure




1901 Scotland Census
about Robert McDougall
Name: Robert McDougall
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 510/1
Registration district: Dunoon
Civil Parish: Dunoon and Kilmun
County: Argyll
Address: Sghor Bheam Ho Bullwood
Occupation: Property Agent & Valuator
ED: 3
Page: 2 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 6
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_178
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes McDougall 30 b Cathcart, Renfrewshire
Alice Evangeline McDougall 25 b Hunters Quay, Argyllshire
Margaret McDougall 56 b Glasgow
Margaret Brown McDougall 27 b Glasgow
Robert McDougall 58

Missed that - must remember to try using both spellings of Mac/McDougall when searching. Looks like the girls if they married must have done so quite later in life based on their ages.

Obviously Thomas loved is sisters since my Aunt Alice who died recently was Alice Evangeline and the others are also named for his sisters.

Veronica

Thomas is Thomas Thomson McDougall and William is William Brown McDougall. That's from the IGI>

Liz

Hey Veronica

The death will be available online at Scotlandspeople.gov.uk, they have deaths up to 1957.

It costs £6 for 30 credits. 1 credit to do a search and 5 to view a cert/document.

You can then print or save to your computer or just have it stored on your account on SP.

Thanks both for your help.

When naming people in Scotland I understand that there is a bit of a tradition. Who do you think the Motion in Robert Motion McDougall was named for I know his father was John and his mother was Catherine Dishart. Would it likely be through his father's family?

Going off line in about 30 minutes so will check back in a little while then look again tomorrow.

Must search the IGI a bit further and perhaps invest in some credits.

Veronica

His siblings all had middle names too.



JOHN MCDOUGAL Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
10 APR 1839
Christening:
21 APR 1839 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN MCDOUGAL Family
Mother: CATHARINE DISHART


ANDREW HUTTON MCDOUGAL Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
30 JUN 1844 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN MCDOUGAL Family
Mother: CATHARINE DISHART



AGNES MEFFAN MCDOUGAL Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
23 JAN 1837
Christening:
23 JAN 1837 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN MCDOUGAL Family
Mother: CATHARINE DISHART

Thanks so much. I have to take my grandchildren out for supper but think I will be trolling through the IGI tonight when I get back. Those scottish middle names are a great help in going backwards.

Will be able to fill in a few gaps.

Snowing like heck here, we had a foot last weekend.

best to all, will check back tomorrow.

Veronica

Possible for Catherine's parents, can't find her birth yet.



ELSPET WILSON DISHART Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
21 MAY 1815
Christening:
28 MAY 1815 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: GEORGE DISHART Family
Mother: AGNES MEFFAN




JOHN WATSON DISHART Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
21 SEP 1817
Christening:
28 SEP 1817 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: GEORGE DISHART Family
Mother: AGNES MEFFAN



I know this isn't answering your original query but you really will need scotlandspeople for that.

Snowing here in Aviemore,Scotland too. Nowhere near a foot yet but it is forecast for tonight.


Liz

Liz

Addictive isn't it!!!

Got to go check back later.

Veronica

Morning Veronica,
Here's a couple of names for you. Don't know where they fit in but I'm sure they're your family!

ROBERT MOTION Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: EUPHEMIA WILSON DISHART Family
Marriage:
01 AUG 1837 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

If you check the Motions on familysearch you'll find Wilsons and Watsons in the names. And do check the Ancestral files at the top and click on family, there's a lot of informtion on that.

Liz

Thanks Liz

Lots of leads to follow up.

I think I found William, Roberts brothers marriage.

My birthday today so I will hit the computer tomorrow after the Grandkids have gone home.

Thanks so much for your help. If you come up with anything else just add to the thread or email me direct.

Veronica