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I have an 1857 birth certificate and am struggling in reading the mothers maiden name.

Please PM me with your email if you'd take a look and give me your opinion.

Please post your result here

Many thanks
MB

will Pm you and take a looky.!!

Shirley

have taken a look and its sorted !!!

Shirley

Shirley - thank very much that's what I thought BUT (there's always a but) I can't find a marriage.

Shirley thinks it's Treadwell


MB

will have a look for it

Looks to me like Treadwell, but, like yourself, I can't see a marriage........

Reg

This could be them on the 1851.
Name: James Dewbery
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 534
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Dewbery 31
James Dewbery 27
James William 2
Mary Ann William 3 Mo



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1486; Folio: 164; Page: 5; GSU roll: 87811-87812.

Reggie

Many thanks - I'm glad we all came up with the same name. They may not have married!?!

I'll have to see if I can find them on the census

MB

cant find them on any other census but this seems to be Alfred on the 1901
Alfred Dewberry
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil Parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:65 Robert Street

Occupation:Arsenal labourer he worked at the Woolwich Arsenal)

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 381
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Dewberry 42
Alfred Dewberry 16
Emily Dewberry 38
Emily Dewberry 14


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 573; Folio: 65; Page: 55.
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Coincidence my dad worked at the Woolwich Arsenal from aged 14 ie 1921 - 1965

Shirley

The census info are them in both cases.

I found this as a mistranscribed in 1861 - its the same address as on the certificate

Elizabeth Dewling - Class: RG9; Piece: 69; Folio: 80; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542567

Thanks
MB

Shirley

I think I've found them in 1871 - don't ask how Dewberry is now Devenhay ??? - They're still living in Upper Charlton Street and when you look at the image the William looks like a Treadwell?!?!.

I'd appreciate another opinion

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Name: Alfred Devenhay
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: London

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 12b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 590
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Devenhay 14
Elizabeth Devenhay 52
Mary A Devenhay 20
William Lneadwell 83

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 152; Folio: 87; Page: 1; GSU roll: 823296.

MB

she has her grandfather father William Treadwell living with her but the enumerator has def listed her as Devenhay -widow

Shirley

Many thanks

Thankfully they lived at the same address or I'd never would have found them. I've gone back and found one of her children James William, living with her grandfather William in Oxfordshire in the 1861 census - under the name Dusbery.

The search continues ....

MB

So shes a widow in 1861 seems to be the right Elizabeth even tho shes now a Dewling!!,

James seems to have died between the 1851 census & the 1861.

how about this one??

Deaths Mar 1854
DUXBURY James Richard Marylebone 1a 376

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nope cant be right as the birth cert is 1857!! back to the drawing board