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Valerie

Valerie Report 23 Nov 2009 17:30

HI. Looking for birth record of Louisa Vincent-Thomas c1893, but surname appears to keep changing from above to just Thomas.
Any ideas please?
Sorry! Southampton

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Nov 2009 17:31

location?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Nov 2009 17:35

Freebmd does not like double barrelled names at all.

Try with Vincent as the second christian name.

But as Ann says,a location would be good to try and help you..
viv

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Nov 2009 17:37

maybe?

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
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Thomas Louisa Grace V Falmouth 5c 152

Derek

Derek Report 23 Nov 2009 17:39

A quick look at IGI shows several louisa Thmas's...all with middle names, none Vincent.
On looking for Louisa Vincent there is ONE only at Waltham Cross 1895

As Ann says, more information needed.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Nov 2009 17:43

Had the same idea as Viv, went at it census-wise first -- 1901:

Civil parish: Falmouth
Henry C Thomas 37
Mary A Thomas 32
Louisa G V Thomas 7
Norman Thomas 3
Clifton B Thomas 9 months
Sarah Roberts 66
Eliza Roberts 63


Some more details sure would help-- where, and where and when the different name variants appear.


Oh, right. Southampton. Not in 1901 (living in or born in), as Thomas.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Nov 2009 17:43

Valerie..
To reply on here rather than Edit your post,which can be missed by people,please use the purple REPLY button at the top of the post and the submit button will be under the message you write.
viv

Valerie

Valerie Report 23 Nov 2009 17:44

I have death certifcate so pretty sure of date of birth. She also died in Southampton

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Nov 2009 17:45

Southampton is getting near Falmouth anyway.
And that is the census I came up with too..

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Nov 2009 17:46

If she was born at the end of 1893 she will most likely have been reg in early 1894.

Edit..
Did she have the name Grace also?

Valerie

Valerie Report 23 Nov 2009 17:47

She had 5 children, some were registered under her maiden name Thomas & some Vincent-Thomas

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Nov 2009 17:49

So who and when did she marry please.
Was she married as Thomas to a Vincent and thus the double name came about,or was she born as Vincent thomas?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Nov 2009 17:49

Aargh.

The obvious explanation is that the children's father's surname was Vincent, and she wasn't married to him.

Why doesn't everyone just *give the information they have* in the first place??

**Please** tell us whether and when *she* used the name Vincent-Thomas!

Valerie

Valerie Report 23 Nov 2009 17:50

Haven't seen the name Grace mentioned anywhere.
P.S I'm very impressed with the speed & quantity of help!
I've just started on my tree so not very experienced.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Nov 2009 17:51

Rule out:

Marriages Sep 1915
Thomas Louisa G V - Welch - Falmouth 5c 319

Valerie

Valerie Report 23 Nov 2009 17:51

Her maiden name was Vincent-Thomas, she married William Sheath in 1913

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Nov 2009 17:52

Lets start at the begining again then please...
Who are her children and where and when were they born.
Was she married to their father/s?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Nov 2009 17:53

Valerie.


Marriages Mar 1913
Sheath William Thomas Southampton 2c 27
Thomas Louisa V Sheath Southampton 2c 27


Her name was *not* Vincent-Thomas, apparently.

What do you have that makes you say it was?

Valerie

Valerie Report 23 Nov 2009 17:54

Yes she was married to their father.
Son Leslie Harold Sheath was born 09/02/1916, have more if you need them

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Nov 2009 17:55

To save time and tears.


Births Dec 1914
SHEATH George E Vincent-Thomas Southampton 2c 57

Births Mar 1916
Sheath Leslie H Vincent-Thomas Southampton 2c 70

Births Mar 1923
Sheath Sydney R Vincent-Thomas Southampton 2c 44

Births Dec 1913
Sheath William J Thomas Southampton 2c 52

Births Dec 1924
Sheath Frank A Thomas Southampton 2c 103


When you said they were "registered under" her maiden name, I had taken that to mean they were registered with her surname as their own, i.e. she was not married.

It's quite posible that her name was given as Louisa Vincent-Thomas or Vincent Thomas on the two births showing as Thomas, and the info got indexed as Thomas alone. Do you have the actual certificates?