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Alice Webster 1895

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Shani

Shani Report 9 Sep 2008 12:44

Am new to this, sorry! Trying to find out who my great grandmas parents were. Her name was Alice Webster, birth reg Jan-Mar 1895 in Beverley and she appears on the 1901 census aged 6, living with her grandparents Robert and Alice Mann and her 2 year old sister Elsie, but no mention of their parents.

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 12:55

Hi
In 1891 there was a Mann family living in Ladygate, Beverley, Yorks
Head Robert c1832 wife Alice (could be the grandparents) with children Adelaide, James and Lucy. Now we need to check who adelaide and lucy married!!
Angela

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 9 Sep 2008 12:57

I'm not sure where this is going but...

in 1891 Robert and Alice Mann have a daughter named Adelaide, aged 18

In 1900 Adelaide Webster Mann married William Lambert in Beverley

In 1901, Beverley
William Lambert 29
Adelaide Lambert 28

K

K Report 9 Sep 2008 13:02

Second marraige for Robert Mann

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1888 (98%)
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Duncan Annie Beverley 9d 143
>>GLEED Alice Beverley 9d 143
>>MANN Robert Beverley 9d 143
PRIOR William Beverley 9d 143

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 13:05

in 1871 Robert had a daughter Sarah Ellen from his first wife can we find her marriage??

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 9 Sep 2008 13:06


1881 England Census about Adelaide Man
Name: Adelaide Man
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Gender: Female
Where born: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Woodmansey Cum Beverley Parks
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: England Springs
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Beverley
Sub registration district: Beverley
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Dixon 1
Annie E. Dixon 6
Hannah Dixon 34
Joseph Dixon 29
Adelaide Man 9
Sarah E. Man 11

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 9 Sep 2008 13:08

h Ellen Mann
Name: Sarah Ellen Mann
Age: 7 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bentley
Ecclesiastical parish: Rowley
Town: Bentley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Beverley
Sub registration district: Beverley
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Branton 32
Walter Branton 6
Robert Mann 39
Robert Mann 1
Sarah Ellen Mann 7 months
William Ward 13

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 13:28

Marriage of Robert Mann and Ann Shakespear AMJ 1856 in Beverley, Yorks
In 1861 they are living in Kitchen Lane, but with no children

K

K Report 9 Sep 2008 13:30

I think the birth cert of Alice or Elsie is needed to solve the problem
or Alice's marriage cert would give her father's name

Looks like the marriage

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
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Sugdon George W Webster Beverley 9d 271
Webster Alice Sugdon Beverley 9d 271

Dea

Dea Report 9 Sep 2008 13:39

This one is a possibility for Sarah Ellen on the 1871?

Registered as Branton, but probably Robert's child?

Births Sep 1870

Branton Sarah Ellen Beverley 9d 106



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Dea

Dea Report 9 Sep 2008 13:43

Just to complicate matters further:

Robert on 1871:

Births Dec 1869
BRANTON Robert Mann Beverley 9d 92

Dea x

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 13:53

So he had two children Robert and Sarah Ellen with the housekeeper Elizabeth Branton registered as Branton but shown as Mann on the census returns!!

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 13:56

what about this one??

Sarah Ellen Branton married James Mann in JFM 1888 in Swaffham, Norfolk (where Robert originated from)!!

Dea

Dea Report 9 Sep 2008 13:59

Further complications?

Births Sep 1872

Branton Adelaide Beverley 9d 103

Dea x

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 14:05

That solves it
Adelaide Mann Branton married JFM 1892 William Thomas Webster

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 14:07

So they should be Alices parents but Adelaide went on to marry again and maybe the new husband didnt want Williams children living with them?? or maybe they were just staying with their grandparents

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 14:08

Then she married William Lambert OND 1900 in Beverley

Angela

Angela Report 9 Sep 2008 14:10

and Elizabeth Branton was Alices grandmother not Alice

Dea

Dea Report 9 Sep 2008 14:14

Deaths Dec 1898
Webster William Thomas 25 Beverley 9d 69

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 9 Sep 2008 14:41

This one is also puzzling me - I can't seem to tie it in or follow it anywhere!


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Births Jun 1871 Webster Adelaide Bramley 9b 358


Dea x