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Hi all,

I am looking for any information on William think born Dumferline, to James Meldrum and Helen Watson who were married 1811 in Fife.

My friend has details on his parents & sibling, but nothing on William, not exactly sure of year of birth, any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

how is his surname Cooper?

Sorry,

Was given incorrect information, should be William Meldrum, apparently there is another Wm Meldrum in her family. Sorry for mix up

For ref

JAMES MELDRUM Pedigree
Male Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: HELEN WATSON Family
Marriage: 11 DEC 1811 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland



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DAVID MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 16 FEB 1793

2. DAVID MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 FEB 1793 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

3. HENRY MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 MAR 1793

4. HENRY MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 31 MAR 1793 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

5. HELEN MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 AUG 1794

6. HELEN MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 AUG 1794 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

7. ISABEL MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 APR 1797

8. ISABEL MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 APR 1797 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

9. JAMES MELDRUM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 11 DEC 1811 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Really not sure??

1841
Piece: SCT1841/424 Place: Dunfermline -Fife Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dunfermline
Folio: 0 Page: 2
Address: Bothwellhaugh Street



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MELDRUM James M 60 Cotton Weaver Fife
MELDRUM William M 30 Cotton Weaver Fife
MELDRUM Robert M 25 Cotton Weaver Fife
MELDRUM James M 25 Cotton Weaver Fife
MELDRUM David M 20 Cotton Weaver Fife
MELDRUM Henry M 20 Cotton Weaver Fife
MELDRUM Andrew M 10 Cotton Weaver Fife
MELDRUM Catherine F 55 Outside Census County (1841)
MELDRUM Mary F 15 Fife
MELDRUM Jean F 14 Fife
MELDRUM Helen F 12 Fife

The only other details she has was William had a brother Richard born c1813 she has information on him

Hi Mel,
Are you sure William's mother is Helen Watson???

William Meldrum CH. 3/1/1811 Dunfermline
And
Robert Meldrum CH. 11/1/1813 Dunfermline

Are the children of these parents.

JAMES MILDRUM Pedigree
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Spouse: CATHARINE EWAN Family
Marriage: 06 MAR 1810 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland



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Kath

Mel,
I think this is relating to your Meldrum family.
It appears to tie in with the 1841 census information that PaulaW gave in her post of 9/10/2010
THE MELDRUM FAMILY (1976). By Martin Norgate. Typescript, but copies deposited with Libraries, including Dunfermline Central Library. Written by Martin Norgate, former Curator of Dunfermline Museum, the work deals with a famous Dunfermline family who were involved in the local weaving industry for several generations. The line was founded by DAVID MELDRUM (b c 1712), who, according to family tradition, came from Cleish, and settled as a cottar, or feuar, on Grange Farm, to the south of Dunfermline. He was also a weaver at Grange, and was admitted to the local Weaver Incorporation on 13 March 1734. Married to Margaret Gilmure. His son, WILLIAM MELDRUM (1736-1812), was admitted to the Weaver Incorporation on 11 September 1759, and in about 1770 purchased the house in Bothwell Street, which was still tenanted by his descendants in 1901. His son, HENRY MELDRUM (1764-1828), who was admitted to the Weaver Incorporation on 16 Jan 1781, was perhaps the most famous representative of the family, renowned locally for the manufacture of seamless shirts; the original was finished in 1813 and is now in Dunfermline Museum. He lived at 20 Nethertown Broad Street, which he had built in the latter 1790s Another son, WILLIAM MELDRUM (1776-1848), was admitted to the Weaver Incorporation on 19 December 1799, but later became teacher at Brucefield, in connection with which he "got a heart-motion printing press made by a smith, purchased a lot of old types, and commenced printing on a small scale in 1813. His work was chiefly confined, in his bye-hours, to the printing of hand-bills, texts from the Scriptures for the Sunday Schools, and sic-like. He ceased printing in 1844." MARTIN MELDRUM (d 1825), the son-in-law of Henry Meldrum (1736-1812), having married his cousin-germain, Margaret Meldrum (1768-1840), entered the Weaver Incorporation on 15 September 1791, and in 1799 removed to the Nethertown, having built a one-storey house next door west to Henry Meldrum. He died 3 Feb 1825 from "disease of the stomach," aged 63. Henry's son, WILLIAM MELDRUM (1789-1866), was a weaver at 20 Nethertown Broad Street, having entered the Weaver Incorporation on 26 September 1810; Dunfermline Museum has a linen damask and table-cloth woven by him; married to Elizabeth Smeaton (1788-1872). Another of Henry's sons, JAMES MELDRUM (1791-1857), entered the Weaver Incorporation on 23 Sept 1820, and was a weaver either at Bothwell Haughs or in the Nethertown; a loom made for him by Robert Hay, and which was used by his sons until c 1906, is now in Dunfermline Museum. HENRY MELDRUM (1822-1901), the son of William Meldrum and Elizabeth Smeaton, was admitted to the Weaver Incorporation on 9 Sep 1857 as the eldest son of William, but later emigrated to Canada, arriving 12 July 1858, and was a farmer at Artemesia (1859), and later postmaster at Eugenia, where he died. This is only a brief extraction of some of the more famous members of the family in a work which also outlines the development of weaving in Dunfermline and which gives a history of if its various linen factories.

Just thought it might interest you

Regards
Kath

Also found this snippet

MELDRUM, JAMES (1791-1857) (2): b 30 Dec 1791, son of Henry Meldrum (1) and Janet Fotheringham, was adm Freeman of the Weaver Incorp, 23 Sep 1820, paying the special dues as a son of Henry as agreed by the Trade in 1808; he was a weaver either at Bothwellhaughs, or in the Nethertown; between 1830 and 1835 he had a loom made for him by Robert Hay, which was erected in his loomshop beside his house at Bothwellhaugh; the loom was used by him and his sons until c 1906, and is now in Dunfermline Museum; he d 2 Jan 1857; m 6 March 1810 Catherine Ewans (she d 4 Jan 1857)

Kath

Thanks Kath,

What I have been told, apparently on Helen's death record early 1860's I think, it was signed by William, son.

I will contact her tomorrow, to see what other details she has.

Thanks again

Mel, Further to your request on the help centre, there is an Alexander Meldrum in the Dunfermline poor house in 1871.

Whole list of names but no other Meldrum.

Name: Alexander Meldrum
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunfermline, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 424/2
Registration district: Dunfermline Landward
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Landward
County: Fife
Address: Landward Parist Of Dunfermline
Occupation: Scholar
ED: Dunfermline Poorhouse
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_72


I wondered if that could be the Alexander who was the subject of your query. If he was in the poor house without a parent, he may have been orphaned young and not remember his parents?

There is also a birth on Familysearch.org for an Alexander b. Inverkeithing 1860, illegitimate son of Isabella Meldrum.

Thanks rootgatherer,

That is a possibility, it fits in with the other children who were born, the family I have is - Richard died 1871 and his wife died 1866.

If indeed Alec belongs to this family, a nephew was also known as Alec, even though he was registered at birth as his fathers name!!

Sorry I took so long to reply, but did not expect to get an answer to this thread.

No problem Mel, I only just put it on this thread this morning as I saw from your "Help Clinic" posting that you had this thread. If I see anything else, I'll post on here.

Hi all,

Can someone please check the Scottish 1841 Census, to see who Helen/Ellen Meldrum born c1781 Fife is living with, I am trying to find when her husband James died.

On the 1851 Helen is listed as living at Goldfrum st, Dunfermline with her son Richard 38 and grandson James 5.

Thanks

I have found 2 James Meldrums on familysearch, which might be her husband

James b 10 Jun 1781, parents George & Janet Wilson

James b 10 Apr 1778, parents William Jean Furthingham

This maybe what you are looking for.

1841 Scotland census

Name: Richard Meldrim
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Gender: Male
Where born: Fife, Scotland

Civil Parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: South Side Of Golfdrum
Occupation: Lene Weaver
Parish Number: 424
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mc Feggins 60
Margaret Mc Feggins 60
Alexander Mc Feggins 20
Margaret Mc Feggins 15
James Meldrim 75
Helen Meldrim 55
Richard Meldrim 28
William Meldrim 25
James Meldrim 18

Regards

Catherine

Thank you Catherine,

It looks like it could be the right family, William signed Helen's death record.
Can you see a death of James before 1851.

All James Meldrum's deaths between 1841 and 1851in Fife. Even if you open these they provide very little information. I know from previously opening a couple in my own searches. Indeed the death may not be registered as was not required until 1855.

No Date Surname Forename Other Name/
Frame No Sex Parish City/
County GROS
Data Image Extract
1 11/07/1841 MELDRUM JAMES M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0180 0190
2 25/06/1842 MELDRUM JAMES ROBERT MELDRUM M DYSART /FIFE 426/00 0110 0066
3 18/03/1843 MELDRUM JAMES JAMES MELDRUM M ST ANDREWS AND ST LEONARDS /FIFE 453/00 0210 0120
4 04/05/1843 MELDRUM JAMES M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0180 0221
5 06/03/1850 MELDRUM JAMES M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0180 0358
6 10/11/1850 MELDRUM JAMES M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0180 0368
7 06/07/1851 MELDRUM JAMES JOHN MELDRUM M KILRENNY /FIFE 438/00 0030 0254

Regards
Catherine

Thanks for the info. I will now have to try & find information on William & James junior, I presume there might have been other children, as there is a 7 year break between William & James.

You may have the marriage:

2 11/12/1811 MELDRUM JAMES HELEN WATSON/FR3297 M DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0100 0550

No children registered to them on SP. Again did not have to register at that time.

Catherine