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Advice please, stuck where to look next

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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Apr 2008 20:44

Hi,
Although I would be very grateful to anyone who could locate this marraige, I'm actually looking for tips on how to sort this out for myself.

I thought I had managed to complete the research on maternal G Grandfather and had ordered the birth, death certs. certs on his marriages and birth certificates for his children. Job well done !
However the last certificate arrived this morning, the marraige cert. for his first marriage.
His marital status is listed as widowed - and I can't find any trace of this surprise wife on ancestry (using the logic that his wife would have to have died before he re-married to vaildate that I had found the correct marriage. Hope that all makes sense.

Details are

William George Ridley 1858 Islington

1871 Census living in Finchley Middx

Married Matilda Hoare 1877 Bethnal Green
Widowed 1894
Married Sarah Stevens 1895 Barnet

Died 1913 Barnet

Any tips gratefully received

Kind Regards
Jennie

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Apr 2008 20:50

The only other William George isthis

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)
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Brazier William James Bethnal Green 1c 647
Dulieu Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 647
Gill Eliza Bethnal Green 1c 647
>>>>Ridley William George Bethnal Green 1c 647


but he would only be 13?

Andy

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Apr 2008 20:54

Hi Andy,
Many thanks for that, I did wonder the same thing, but no corresponding death for Elizabeth Ridley or Eliza Ridley. Also check the ones in sussex but again no corresponding death records.

How old did they have to be to get married ? - I know they could have lied about their age but 13 seems far too young ?

Jennie

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Apr 2008 21:00

Out of interest, was his father listed as deceased on his first marriage?

Rose

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Apr 2008 21:16

Hi Rose,
No, Father was James Ridley, not listed as deceased on any of the certificates.

I haven't got him fully sorted out yet, but he was born in 1827 and married in 1848 (both events in Hackney)

Jennie

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Apr 2008 23:25

I'm inclined to think it was a mistake seeing as he was only 19.

Rose

John

John Report 3 Apr 2008 00:42

There was an Eliza Ridley who died in O/N/D 1875, Hackney 1b 358, aged 24.

At a quick look I couldn't see her equivalent in the 1871 census, so PERHAPS Ridley was her married name, and PERHAPS she was the Eliza Gill who got married to William Ridley in 1871 (Andrew's post) and PERHAPS she was the Eliza Gill who was a 20-year old servant in the 1871 census at Hackney, Stoke Newington (Class: RG10; Piece: 309; Folio: 21; Page: 31; GSU roll: 818890). a lot of uncertainties, admittedly!

It also does seem unlikely that as a 20-yr old she would have married a 13-year old boy in 1871. But I cannot see any other "William James Ridley"s who might fit the bill in the 1871 census - possibly her husband is just listed there as "William Ridley"?

Good luck with your attempts to unravel the mystery!

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 3 Apr 2008 07:45

Hi,

Yes, I suppose it could be a mistake,

Oh - John thats a bit spooky as on one of the censuses they do seem to have links to stoke newington, and there are certainly links to Hackney.

I think I may need to check some more certificates.

I was a little concerned last night about an Emma Stacey who married a William Ridley ( although there are quite a few) but didn't die until 1878 - after the marraige to Matilda.

Many thanks for the help

Jennie