Genealogy Chat

Don't know if anyone has viewed any Roman Catholic church records etc but I have found a couple of abbreviations that might come in handy for people wading through them:

"olim" = "nee" or "formerly", as in "Mary Smith olim Jones"
"heri" = "yesterday"
"hodie" = today

Anyone who knows of others is welcome to add.

This is not an RC entry, but a 24/8/1794 Rathen ABD Church of Scotland entry.
I don't know Latin, but I've guessed at the unabbreviated version, and its translation.
I'ld appreciate any corrections, if appropriate:

Wm Scott here, & Eliz'th Rainy in Lonmay procl'o pro p'mo 2ndo & 3tio
[William Scott here, & Elizabeth Rainy in Lonmay proclamo pro primo secundo & tertio]
[William Scott here, & Elizabeth Rainy in Lonmay proclaimed for the first, second, and third time]

I know this is an old thread, but just nudging as I remembered I'd started it and just managed to find it again.

I reckon you've got that about right, mgnv - I'm guessing they must be banns being read for the first, second and third times?

Another one I found and couldn't work out (at least I think it is Latin) is "inst" - originally I thought it read "just" but I saw it on the baptism of twins, saying they'd been christened on the 20th April and born on the 14th "inst" - ie. the fourteenth of the same month.

"Per proxam" is another (I think that was it) which seemed to mean one person was a proxy godparent in place of the real one.

Hier is yesterday in french

inst = instant

often used in dates in years gone by, as in the twins born on the 14th inst

or money borrowed and due on 16th inst

Inst. means in this month.
Ult. / ulto. / ultimo means the previous month.

E.g.,
OPR St Fergus BAN entry on August 5th 1797
William Anderson and Janet Reid in Ednie had a son born on the 2nd inst. & baptised this day called William. Witnesses John Mackie in Blackwater and George Anderson in Ednie.

So my ggg grandad William was born 2/8/1797. (He would marry Elizabeth Scott and become son-in-law to my couple posted previously).

LDS has the Drouin collection of parish records for Quebec thru 1900 online (unindexed images only). The collection is described here:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionGuidance;c=1321742

What is probably of more interest in this thread is that they give an example of each type, its transcription, and its translation (French --> English) at:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/resources/guidance/1321742/en/Quebec%20Parish%20Register%202.pdf

this was on one I read recently

"conversam ad fidum" (followed by a date)

we thought it meant conversion to RC or accepted into RC church

the date which followed was the day before the marriage

Yes, that would mean "[a woman] converted to the faith" except that the last word should be "fidem".

Peter

thanks Peter - the writing was not terribly clear