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Hi, Pease could someone help me. I have a marriage date for Mary Roberts and George Armitage (30 Nov 1807) care of the IGI web site. I would like to authenticate this. Also, I believe that my Mary Roberts links up with another family tree on the genes site - the problem is that George Armitage does not show as being married to Mary. I am about 90 percent sure that my Mary Roberts and the Mary Roberts in the other family tree are the same person - but I just need to prove it.
Can anyone come up with any ideas on how to achieve this

The marriage entry from the IGI is a extracted entry so pretty reliable, but i would still check at the records office to be sure.

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GEORGE ARMITAGE Pedigree
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Spouse: MARY ROBERTS Family
Marriage: 30 NOV 1807 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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M151051 1806 - 1808 0918377 Film 6900089 Film



Roy

You do need to be aware that even if you find the original record it isn't going to tell you who Mary's father is.

That information only came in with certificates in 1837.

If you are lucky it may have witnesses whose names you recognise as family members or the register may record if either the bride or groom came from a different parish.

Parish records vary in detail quite a lot depending on who was filling them in and the earlier ones can have very little information indeed.

Sue

Is there any way of ordering a copy of the original record?

You could see if Leeds archives have a website,
you can order copies of parish recordsonline in some places I have done it many times, they sometimes have a form you can print off and fill in then send it by post, it does very often take a few weeks, but well worth it. Gill

I have been in touch with Leeds archives. They were extremely helpful and were able to tell me that there were no family members identified on their records. The witnesses were a gentleman who appeared on several other marriage certificates and the groom of the marriage following that of George and Marys.

Does anyone have any more ideas as to how I could find out who Marys family were?

Normally marriages were in the parish where the bride's family lived.

If (and it is a big if) there are no other families of the same name in that parish and you can trace them back through the registers to a baptism of that Mary then you have probably got the right one.

At this point it becomes a lot easier if you can spend time in the records office studying the actual registers and those of parishes around.
Other records like wills and land records can help sometimes.
I sometimes write names of individuals on scraps of paper and spread them all over the living room floor trying to see the pattern of names and relationships. I've been lucky with some unusual surnames but this one might be trickier.

Good luck
Sue

Did Mary marry just once?

I was able to find out the father of one of my tree, ...a Jane JONES, who later remarried as a widow after 1837 and so her father was shown on the certificate.

Gwyn

I think it is likely that Mary did only marry the once as she shows up on the 1851 census aged 63 as Mary Armitage (her married name).

I am fairly certain that this is their marriage: 30 NOV 1807 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

As far as I know they had at least two sons and two daughters. John 1817, Rachel 1821, George, 1827, Mary 1831. However, what I have just realised is that the first son and daughter have the names of Marys parents - the problem is again proving this. I am not aware of a Sarah.