Genealogy Chat

- also, remember - six weeks to register a birth means that registration in October might be a possibility - there are another three William Smith Staffordshire registrations in the fourth quarter of 1911

- also possible - registration as Arthur, with William added at baptism (one Staffs reg in the third q'r of 1911)
[or as "male" (name not decided when registering), but there are none in Free BMDs transcriptions of the last half of 1911 - which is shown on their coverage charts as complete]

- also, if the date of birth is taken from information at the date of his death, it might not be accurate and you might have to check out births in other years (however, if his birth certificate was available when his death was registered, this possibility is less likely)

If there are only three possibilities for William Arthur Smith, you can apply for the birth certs one at a time,specifying the birth date - if you ask for the wrong one they will refund 3quid!
At worst then it would cost you 7+4+4 !!
Another trick I use is to email the registry office direct with a question like "I am trying to track down William Smith b 1/9/1911 and see that you have a birth in that timeframe- could you let me know if I am on the right track before I order??" Amazing how often it works.

Peter in NZ

No your Dad's certificate would have his parents not his grandparents but you ought to have a copy filed away for reference.

Night

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PS

Don't buy credits on this site to do research.........that is a very expensive way of doing it!

Sue

Night Sue, and thank you.

My Dad's birth certificate wouldn't help there, would it?

Have a good browse of sites in my nudged useful thread.
Also read the thread at the top of Tips Board about how to use the IGI.

Have fun.........got to go to bed!

Sue
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You wouldn't beleive how helpful you are, thank you.

William Smith is harder.
He may have been baptised with the middle name but they didn't register him with it.
These are 3 possibles. By 1911 the mother's maiden name is recorded along with the code but we can't say which is him at the moment.

Births Sep 1911

Smith William Tonks W. Bromwich 6b 1673
Smith William Deakin Wolstanton 6b 210
Smith William Shemilt Wolstanton 6b 147

From 1837 there has been civil registration of births, marriages and deaths. Not compulsory for births at first so some are missing from early years.
That site is not complete but getting close.
Records are arranged in quarter years so January/February and March are March Quarter etc.

Once you know the code for the record you need you can go to that other site and order a copy of the certificate.

Sue

Thank you Sue, I am so sorry to be a pain!

Births Marriages and Deaths

You need to read the information on that site

Sue

I'm so sorry Sue, but what is BMD please? And the site?

Those are the important code telling you the volume and page of the record. You need that to order a certificate

Look at this site
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

If you do decide to order any certificates they can be done via this site for £7 each

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/

Sue

What are all the numbers after the name please? (I told you I was a complete novice and didn't have a clue!!)

FreeBMD site

Sue
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I wonder if this is a coincidence or these two were related?

Submitted record on IGI
MARY RIMMELL
Death: 28 SEP 1942

Marriages:
Spouse: JOSEPH PHILLIPS SMITH Family
Marriage: 19 FEB 1919 Pebworth, Worcester, England

OMG....how?.......what?

Now you are scaring me? How on earth did you find that out? And so fast?

I am totally blown away!