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Query on show people and Census

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Esta

Esta Report 14 May 2008 09:38

Can anyone advise whether show people ie travelling with shows or circuses etc would be subject to the various census taken over the years?

I am looking for a Richard (Dick) Monte born in 1876 but cannot find him on the 1881, 91 or 1901 census.

Esta

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 May 2008 11:02

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Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
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MONTE Richard Edmonton 3a 216




1901 poss

Name: Richard Monte
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Wood Green, London, England

Civil Parish: Thetford St Cuthbert
Ecclesiastical parish: Thetford St Cuthbert and Holy Trinity
Town: Thetford
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: Market Place (2 caravans)

Occupation: showman

Registration district: Thetford
Sub registration district: Thetford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11a
Household Members: Name Age
William Hall 37
Prince Jerome 24 jugler
Caroline Monte 21 Greenock, Scotland
James Monte 27 brother, Wood Green
Polly B Monte 3 months
Richard Monte 22
Spanoul Rowe 21
Charles Stewart 23 comedian
W V Vido 26


Do you have the birth cert for the name of his father?





Possible marriage
Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
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Gerrans Edith Jessie Islington 1b 420
Lambert Sydney Charles Islington 1b 420
MONTE Richard Islington 1b 420
Williams Caroline Islington 1b 420



1881 poss
Name: Jas. Monte
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Poland

Civil Parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 313 City Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Photographer

Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: Old Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Furniss 20
Edwd. Monte 14
Elizth. Monte 34
Geo. Monte 6
Jas. Monte 49
Jas. Monte 8
Richd. Monte 4
Joseph Rawskin 18



1891
Name: James Monte
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Poland

Civil Parish: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Occupation: photographer

Registration district: Rochford
Sub registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Monte 45
James Monte 57

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 14 May 2008 11:17

Odd!

1891 England Census
about James Monte
Name: James Monte
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Poland

Civil Parish: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Monte 45
James Monte 57


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 May 2008 11:19

Sorry Claire,

I must have just updated my previous post as you were posting.


Yes the 1891 is a bit odd as no children with them

Heather

Heather Report 14 May 2008 12:16

I wonder??? Lodging with a group of "travellers"
1891
Name: Berty Monte
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Holloway, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Bedford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bedford
Sub registration district: Bedford and Cardington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Adolphus Baker 28
Alice Baker 5
Harriett Baker 26
Bartholomew Creen 64
Lucy Creen 64
Mary J Creen 22
William Fisher 19
>>Berty Monte 18
>>Edwin Monte 24
Joseph Richard 60
Harry Robinson 24
William Taylor 21
William White 22

Esta

Esta Report 14 May 2008 12:36

Sorry for the delay in coming back - taxi service for 17 year old!

Thank you all for your help - I couldn't find them on findmypast so I really appreciate the help.

Edwin Monty in the last posting is Richard's brother so I am definitely on the right track.

Esta

Heather

Heather Report 14 May 2008 14:42

I just wondered who Bertie may be? Perhaps Richard/James who preferred a trendier name for an artiste??

BTW - its been a long time Esta since we "spoke" :)