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I will try and make this as simple as possible.

I have managed to find relatives back to 1841 census (with the help from people on this site)

I have not done anything on the family for a while now but decided to get the details out again and have a look.

Here is the question.

Richard Long born c1780 (worked out from the 186) census he must have died shortly after that does not appear in 1871.

Married to Mary ? cannot confirm maiden name. c1781

on the 1841 census he is with Mary and in the 1851 he is also with Mary BUT there are a list of other people living, I believe in very close proximty, all with the same surname and occupations.

I am worndering if these are related to Richard and Mary possible siblings or children (Ibelieve Henry who appears on the 1841 and 1851 are probably Richards son this may also apply to a Lydia who is living with them in 1841 and 1851

How can I confirm the connections to these and possible even find out more details on Richard and Mary.

I have all the neceesary cert for my grandparents up to Richard.

The area is always the same Westminister Middx, St Margarets, St Georges Hanover Square, Pimilico.

One other point Henry, son of Richard married an Elizabeth Webb born North Nibley Gloucestershire. I went to the church there and there was a plaque on the wall relating to a George Long born c1765 in North Nibley and is said spent 40 years in Westminister so trying to find out the connection - if any.

Hope this makes sense any input suggestions you can give would be extremely helpful. I think ultimately I will have to visit the City of Westminister Archives (?)

Thank you

Regards Paula

If this is them in the 1851 there is only them 2 living there..they are in number 8...couldn't see any other Long's

Richard Long
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1779
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Westr, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Westminster St John The Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 141
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Long 73
Richard Long 72

This Henry is at Francis Court on the 1851 and it says his dad is William

Henry Long
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Westminster St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub registration district: St Margaret
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Long 15
Emma Long 17
Fanney Long 19
George Long 13
Henry Long 20
John Long 22
Thomas Long 16
William Long 52
William Long 23

Ok i see whats happen there are 2 familys

this 1841 goes with the 1851

Henry Long
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub registration district: St Margaret
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Long 35
Ann Long 6 Mo
Charlotte Long 5
Emma Long 8
Fanny Long 9
George Long 3
Henry Long 10
John Long 11
Thomas Long 6
William Long 40
William Long 13
_________________________

And theses are your Long's

Henry Long
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub registration district: St Margaret
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Long 9
George Long 15
Henry Long 20
Lydia Long 25
Mary Long 60
Richard Long 61

Address Francis Place

Oh you have gone again

1851...Your George

George Long
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mann
Gender: Male
Where born: St Margaret, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Westminster St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub registration district: St Margaret
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Long 2
George Long 26
Louisa Long 3
Mann Long 26

The Henry in the 1851 that i put on his dad is called William..so i added the 1841 showing the same family...

Then Under that i put Your Henry in the 1841

Richard & Mary are on there own on the 1851

Can you post the RG, Folio & page numbers for the 1851

Henry Long on the 1851 says born 1817...

But Henry Long on the 1841 with his parents say born 1831

Sorry Julie my mistake.

I cansee from what I have in front of me 1851 Richard and Mary

1 Francis Place was Henry/Fred/Lydia/Catherine

I then have No 9 Francis Street as above with William as father

I then have 10 Francis Street

Fred Long
Harriett

Then 4 Windsor Place

James
Martha
Mary
Elaiza
Charles
Jane
James
Susan

1 Windsor Court
George
Francis
Walter

As you can see there are a lot of them around and this is why I was trying to find a connection.

Sorry I keep disappearing tidying up in between times I have to go to work soon so thought I had better make the effort the only trouble is this becomes a bit compulsive!!

Regards Paula

Family research not tidying up!!

Will check back this evening fingers crossed

Regards and thanks for your help

Paula

I think the best thing to do is try and tie in to see if Lydia Gay is Henry's sister as on the 1841



I thing maybe the William on the 1841 and Richard on the 1841 were brothers...or father & son even

Found what i was looking for

Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%)
Gay Frederick John St Saviour 4 451
Long Lydia Catherine St Saviour 4 451

Well done Julie now I suppose I would have to send for the Marriage cert to see the father of Lydia??

Thanks

nudge

Thanks for help CLOSED