help finding this family in 1871 please

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Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 2,830 Send Message	Carter	Report	27 May 2008 00:25
	hi everyone i am having another go at trying to find my irish rellies i keep putting them to one side as i dont seem to be getting very far with them. this is them on the 1861 census. i have a couple of problems the parents seem to be too young for the 3 oldest children ?? the youngest margaret is my great grandmother but i dont know where these children fit in . also i cant find them on the 1871 - margaret is a lodger in farnworth lancashire and she marries my great grandad patrick o'neill in 1872 any help with this one would be great thanks linda x x 1861 England Census about John Carney Name: John Carney Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Benery Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bedford Ecclesiastical parish: Bedford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Leigh Sub registration district: Culcheth ED, institution, or vessel: 5f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Benery Carney 25 Bridget Carney 11 Catherine Carney 16 John Carney 33 Margaret Carney 7 Mary Carney 13 View Original Record View original image View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2800; Folio: 75; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543031.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	27 May 2008 00:49
	Since the father is older are the older children from a previous marriage ?
	Researching: For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 2,830 Send Message	Carter	Report	27 May 2008 00:57
	hi lindsey, i have no way of finding out as margaret the youngest was born in ireland i cant find any bmd for them. and i have looked for a marriage for john carney to benery in uk from 1851 onwards but no luck cheers linda
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 2,830 Send Message	Carter	Report	27 May 2008 01:22
	just off to bed if anyone comes across them on the 1871 i would be very grateful thanks linda x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,052 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	27 May 2008 05:37
	hmmmmmmmmmmm from www.freebmd.org.uk Marriages Jun 1861 (>99%) Birkenhead Richard Leigh 8c 224 Carney Catharine Leigh 8c 224 Cooke Hannah Leigh 8c 224 France Peter Leigh 8c 224 Looks like she married Peter France, but the 1871 Census offers just as many queries as the 1861!! 1871 Census Name: Catherine France Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Peter Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Westleigh Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Barlows Factory County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Leigh Sub registration district: Westleigh ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 249 Household Members: Name Age Catherine France 26 Charlotte France 14 b.ca 1857, Westleigh, Lancashire, Daughter, Cotton Operative Esther France 4 b.ca 1867, Westleigh, Daughter John France 2 b.ca 1869, Westleigh, Son Margaret France 7 b.ca 1867, Westleigh, Daughter Mary France 17 b.ca 1854, Westleigh, Daughter, Cotton operative Peter France 29 b.ca 1842, Westleigh, Collier Peter James 26 Lodger, Labourer Address:- Barbers factory, Westleigh sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,052 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	27 May 2008 05:44
	so here are Charlotte and Mary in 1861, with their grandfather ..... it looks as if they are more likely to be Peter France's sisters!!! Name: Charlotte France Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Leigh, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Westleigh Ecclesiastical parish: Leigh St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Leigh Sub registration district: West Leigh ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 170 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte France 4 John France 65 b.ca 1796, Leigh, Lancashire Mary France 4 Ann Knowles 40 Niece sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 2,830 Send Message	Carter	Report	27 May 2008 09:45
	sylvia thanks so much for that at least i think thats were one of them went. a lady called ivy pm'd me with 1871 and benery is now mary and the older children have left home and they have 3 other children now. if anyone comes across bridget or mary i would be most grateful many thanks linda x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,052 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	27 May 2008 19:58
	Is this a possibility for Bridget??? 1871 Census Name: Bridget Carney Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Hyde Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Stockport Sub registration district: Hyde ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 177 Household Members: Name Age Bridget Carney 21 Lodger, Cotton Weaver at Mill Mary Done 18 Lodger Sarah Done 45 Lodger Bridget Kilbride 29 James Kilbride 11 Jane Kilbride 1 John Kilbride 30 Head Mary Kilbride 6 William Kilbride 9 Address:- 17 Platt Street, Hyde - - - - ???? Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%) Byrne Mary Prescott 8b 997 Carney Bridget Prescott 8b 997 MACDONALD Michael Prescott 8b 997 Reid William Prescot 8b 997 can't prove it!! sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: January 2005 Posts: 2,830 Send Message	Carter	Report	27 May 2008 22:59
	thanks sylvia for all your help you have definately given me something to think about thanks once again linda

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