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hi all, thank you so much for your help,
Ivy, this is definately my family, I have Kathleens birth cert, it doesnt show any maiden name for her mother annie, father is william lavis, occupation Builder.
Thank you linda
for possible birth cert for louisa, will get this certificate and see what it contains, still need to find older sister Florence's birth cert.
Thank you Kathyrn B not sure if they did marry as Mary Ann died a Campbell.
I have 1871 census of a Ann & Florence in london but it shows Mary ann age as 26 should be nearer 31 - us women hey! - and that she was born in middlesex and not wiltshire, Florence as aged 1 which is right but still cannot find a birth for Florence to check out the details,
many thanks again will let you know how it goes when i get louisa's certificate
Tina
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One possible explanation for a surname as a given name is that the parents were not married, the child was registered with the mother's surname, and the father's surname is the middle name. That was the case for my great-aunt.
It also was not unusual for people to make up fathers for the occasion when they married, if their parents were not married and they did not know their fathers, or the father's surname did not match theirs. Sometimes the name was a grandfather, sometimes it was an amalgam of the mother's surname and the father's given name.
If that were the case here, and Campbell was Mary Ann (Annie)'s birth surname, this is an interesting William Lavis -- "Lavers" on Louisa's birth cert could be a misinterpretation of Lavis, the name given on Catherine's marriage cert.
1861:
Name: William Lavis
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Malmesbury St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: Malmesbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Malmsbury
Sub registration district: Malmsbury Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 126
Emily Lavis 2
Jane Lavis 38
Jane Lavis 5
Louisa J Lavis 18
Mary Lavis 8
Rosanna Lavis 13
Thomas Lavis 38
Thomas Lavis 18
William Lavis 11
1871 -- moved from Wiltshire to London:
Name: William Lavis
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 45
Emily Lavis 12
Jane Lavis 48
Jane Lavis 15
Mary Lavis 18
Rose Lavis 23
Thomas Lavis 53
William Lavis 21
1881 (unmarried):
Name: William Lavis
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Tettenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Wrottesley Hall
Occupation: Coachman Domestic Servant
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Tettenhall
1891, back in London, recorded as married, no wife present:
Name: William Lavis
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Upper Chelsea Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
William Colony 30
Samuel Hounsell 24
William Lavis 41
One might suspect this is him marrying:
Name: William Lavis
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Wolverhampton
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Volume: 6b
Page: 741
Just something to consider!
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A history of Tisbury has been written - see this site:
http://www.adie.co.uk/TISBURY/index.html
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Hi Jim,
I think I was lucky to stumble across it - nothing else really jumps out.
Tina,
Your best chance is probably going to be through Kathleen's birth certificate (and that of Louisa which Linda has found).
If Kathleen's birth cert names William Lavis as the father, what does it say for his occupation? In 1871 there are only about 16 or so likely individuals in the London area.
What does it say for Kathleen's mother's maiden name? Is it Campbell, or, as Linda asks, could that be her name from a previous marriage? If so, you may be able to find the marriage, possibly giving the name of Kathleen's Tisbury grandfather?
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Well done Ivy
Trouble is the original information is way off.
1881
Annie Campbell abt 1846 Tisbury, Wiltshire, England Head Hackney, London
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Possibly Louisa's Birth
Births Sep 1871 (>99%)
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Campbell Louisa Lavers Hackney 1b 458
Linda
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This may be the family in 1881:
Name: Florence Campbell
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilburn, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 4 Upper Arthur St
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 37b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Campbell 35
Catherine Campbell 7
Florence Campbell 11
Louisa Campbell 9
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Is Campbell her Maiden or Married Surname?
Linda
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There is insufficient information for me to find any of them in any census.
Can you provide the census details?
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hi, I am searching for my gg grandmother Mary Ann Campbell b 1840 d 1927 as census shows in Tisbury, Wiltshire but alas i do not seem to be able to find her birth or her 2 eldest daughters Florence b 1870 or Louisa b 1872 both i believe Kilburn, the youngest daughter kathleen/catherine is my g grandmother. I have her birth cert. which shows her father as william lavis although her marriage cert shows him as william campbell ( deceased) which is the same for louisa marrigae cert. I do not as yet have marriage cert for florence. No maiden name for mother is on kathleen b cert. Does anyone have any idea where i can look next, thank you
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