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Thanks Tinkbe,
Found that useful, alway confused when I have a contact and they say - 3 cousin once removed or something similar.
............Lois
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joan i did not mind and you were not the only one
tink
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i have email joan and if anyone else wants one i am happy to if you pm with ref to cousin thing
thanks
john for writing that i can wirte thing like that
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Hi Joan
You are right, that was so helpful and worth retaining. But you don't need to trouble tinkerbel to send you an email.
If you use your mouse to highlight the text you want to capture then RIGHT CLICK on your mouse you can select COPY to put the selected text on your computer's clipboard.
Then you open another program (like MS Word) and use PASTE to put the selected text into a new document.
Hope that does not sound too complicated.
John
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Your mother's 1st cousin is a generation away from you so they are your cousin once removed.
The children of the cousin once removed are your 2nd cousins.( you share G grandparents).... remember 1 more number ( ie 2 in this case) than the number of the 'Greats' you share
Gwyn
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So what would my mother's first cousin be to me? and their subsequent children?
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John
I have a relation just as you describe.
We share a grandmother and although I generally refer to her as my cousin, my family tree program refers to her as my Half 1st cousin.
Gwyn
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copy from this message board a long time ago
The Right Name For The Cousin
Conversation on the subject 'who is related to whom' bogs down over terminology, particularly when it comes to defining cousins.
Your first cousin is your parents' brother's or sister's child. However, the first cousin's child is not your second cousin, but your first cousin one removed. The child of the first cousin once removed is your first cousin twice removed, and his child is your first cousin three times removed.
Your second cousin is your grandparents' brother's or sister's grandchild. That second cousin's child is your second cousin once removed, and his child is your second cousin twice removed, and so on.
Your third cousin is your great-grandparents' brother's or sister's great-grandchild. The third cousin's child is your third cousin once removed, and his child is your third cousin twice removed.
Other Occasionally Misunderstood Terms
Siblings: Parents in common, brothers and sisters
Grandnephew and Grandniece: the grandchild of your brother or sister
Grandaunt or Granduncle: the brother or sister of your grandparent
Great-Grandaunt or Great-Granduncle: the sister or brother of your great-grandparents
Stepfather or Stepmother: the husband of your mother or the wife of your father by a subsequent marriage
Stepchild: the child of your husband or wife by a former marriage
Stepsister or Stepbrother: the child of your stepfather or stepmother
Half Sister or Half Brother: the child of your mother and stepfather or the child of your father and stepmother, or of either parent by a former marriage
In-Laws: your connections by the law of marriage (as distinct from relatives by blood) in particular, your husband's or wife's relatives and your own brother's wife or sister's husband
Ancestor: the person from whom you descend directly, such as a grandparent or a great-grandparent
Descendant: the person who descends directly from you, such as a grandson or granddaughter
Lineal Relations: those in a direct line of ascent or descent, such as a grandfather or granddaughter
Collateral Relations: those relatives who are linked by a common ancestor, such as aunts, uncles, or cousins
Connexions: those who have a relative in common but who are not themselves related by blood.
Now the Easy Version :
Brothers and Sisters Siblings
Children 1st cousins
Grandchildren 2nd Cousins
Great grandchildren 3rd Cousins
Gt Gt grandchildren 4th Cousins
Gt Gt Gt grandchildren 5th Cousins
Gt Gt Gt Gt grandchildren 6th Cousins
One generation before or after, is “Once Removed”
Two generations before/after are “Twice Removed”, etc.
These days most people do not use the term “Grand niece” or “Grand nephew”, or Grand Great Niece etc. The word Grand has been popularly replaced by Great.
The children of your Auntie Mary and her husband Uncle Fred are your first cousins.
Uncle Fred has a sister Agatha who is married to Bert. The children of Agatha and Bert are first cousins to the children of your Auntie Mary & Uncle Fred.
However, you are not related by blood to the children of Agatha & Bert. Such ‘relationships’ are Connexions.
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Cousins in the past were very "loose". I've found mention of cousins who turn out to be second cousins, or first cousins once removed ... depends what period you are looking at I think.
To answer your specific question re grandparents I would still think of them as "cousins", otherwise they would be "half-cousins"? as in "half-brother/sister" ? I've never come across that term ...
Jill
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I think cousins are defined as two people with a pair of grandparents in common.
If they only have one grandparent in common (because of one grandparent having a child by a second marriage) are they still cousins? If not, how is their relationship described, please?
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