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Permission from Pope to marry

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Gigi

Gigi Report 21 Jul 2008 12:35

Hi All,

My grandparents in-law (John James McKenna & Evelyn McKenna marr in 1930s Glasgow) had to have permission from the Pope to marry. They were not first cousins as I can make out so why would they need permission?

Thanks for any comments,

Gillian

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Jul 2008 12:42

If they were Catholic and one of them had been divorced could it have been permission to marry in a church?

Jill

Researching:
London: Faber, Haysey, Spicer ...

Gigi

Gigi Report 21 Jul 2008 12:56

Hi Jill,

Thanks for your reply. According to the family it was because they were related but maybe that was just a story to hide another reason!!! They were Catholic.

They do both have the same surname and both families originated from Co Monaghan Ireland.

Gillian

Julia

Julia Report 21 Jul 2008 13:22

My brother, an Anglican, had to get permission to marry his Catholic wife in South Africa. He had also been divorced.
Julia in Derbyshire

Researching:
Turner Cambs/.Northants, Singapore and Penang,Trengrove Singapore and Penang, Arnull (Champion Race Horse Breeders & Trainers 'Oleander')Germany and Denmark

Gigi

Gigi Report 21 Jul 2008 13:57

Hi Julia,

I'll have to ask my in-laws if there was a divorce!

G

Gigi

Gigi Report 21 Jul 2008 14:44

Hi Island,

I'll see if I can get hold of their marr cert. Maybe the answer wiil be there!

Gillian

Maisy

Maisy Report 21 Jul 2008 16:12

My great grandparents also had to get permission from the pope to marry, they were 2nd cousins. I found this information from the original entry in Liverpool but it was not on the marriage certificate that I purchased from the GRO.

Maisy

Gigi

Gigi Report 21 Jul 2008 19:59

Hi Maisy,

Second cousins could be a possibility. As they have the same surname and their families came from the same area it is quite likely that they are distantly related. I thought it was only first cousins who needed permission. There is probably no shady divorce secret after all!!

Thanks,

Gillian

Llamedos Pam

Llamedos Pam Report 22 Jul 2008 21:33

Both me and OH had to have our 1st marriages annulled by the pope, we had both been baptised Catholic but had married 1st husband/wife in registry office and C of E church to allow us to marry in Catholic Church even though the church did not "recognise" these marriages we still had to have this done, next year will be our 25th anniversary, would get less for murdering him