Genealogy Chat

I am looking for information of the death of my grandfather George Charles MOSS, my grandmother Emma Agnes (nee Fisher), their daughter Rose Annette MOSS and their son Frederick Samual MOSS. I have searched from 1908-1930 no luck.I wondered if there was an epidemic that took all of them.

I know that they were living at 15 Witchampton Street, Islington in 1909 when my father was born but then Charles' brother Samuel MOSS took over looking after my father and his brother Stanley William MOSS b.1904 when my father Frederick Austin MOSS was 1 year old.

I'm struggling to understand who is related to who here.

Are there two children called Frederick born to George and Emma?

Frederick Samual and Frederick Austin?

for reference

Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)

Fisher Emma Agness London C. 1c 12
Moss George Charles London City 1c 12

This is confusing. How do Charles and Samuel fit into the picture?

1901:

1901 England Census
Name: Emma A Moss
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George C
Gender: Female
Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St John North Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 58
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Alice V Moss 9
Daisy G Moss 13
Emma A Moss 32
Emma A Moss 15
Frederick S Moss 5
George C Moss 36
George C Moss 11
Rose A Moss 8

Rose

Do you have this birth cert?

Births Mar 1909
MOSS Frederick Austin Shoreditch 1c 65

It just seems odd they had 2 Fredericks. I'm wondering if one of the daughters is actually the mother.

Rose

There are plenty of potential marriages for Rose A Moss.

Rose

Beryl, if they had all died there surely must be death certificates. Not sure about epidemics although newspapers from the time would give clues about accidents and epidemics.

Other possibilities include being imprisoned or going abroad.

Not this one then?
Emma Moss
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 77
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 259 (click to see others on page)

A Rose Moss was born and died in Islington 1904.

Frederick Samuel was old enough to be in WWI. If he died during that you won't find a death cert.

Rose

If there are two sons called Frederick then ther are 2 reasonable options

1 The younger Frederick is a grandson ((as posted by Rose above)

2 The older Frederick died as a youngster and the younger one is named after him

The Spanish flu 1918-1919 killed more people than the war did.
As the soldiers returned home to their countries they took it with them

525 million people were infected with the virus and 21 million died. Strangely it attacked young.healthy people