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Melanie, my mistake, just putting 2 and 2 together and not getting it right.
Jennifer
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Hi Jennifer
Thanks for the advice. I think I will order the marriage certificate as you advise for Richard and Margaret.
I have searched the Divorce's on NA but the Divorce was between Percy Burns and Olive Burns (my Nan) and it doesn't show up on there.
Thanks again
Melanie
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To go back any further you really need the Marriage cert of Margaret Richards and Richard Burns which will give you their father's name and occupations.
Jennifer
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If you search on the National Arcives site for a divorce you will see it took place in 1933:
Divorce Court File: 8741. Appellant: Percy William Burn. Respondent: Margaret Burn. Co-respondent: William Edwin Winnington Blair. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [HD].
Covering dates 1933
Availability Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years
Held by The National Archives, Kew
If you wanted a copy you can ask for a price before buying either hard copy or by download.
Jennifer
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could this be mother
1891
Name: Margaret Richards
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Gender: Female
Where born: Steynton
Civil Parish: Camrose
Ecclesiastical parish: Camrose
Town: Haverfordwest
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Registration district: Haverfordwest
Sub registration district: Haverfordwest
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David George 42
David U George 7
Eliza George 33
Eliza J George 8
George C George 3
John P George 4
Josiah George 12
Lillibeth H George 1
Mary M George 9
William Hy George 10
Margaret Richards 21
Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Burns Richard Haverfordwest 11a 1493
Richards Margaret Haverfordwest 11a 1493
June x
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Burials Fleetwood Cemetery
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Grave 1
* Percy O'Hara .. 1919 - 1919 (son of Elizabeth Burns)
* Wilfred S Burns .. died 1924 .. (son of Margaret Burns?) .. states 44 at time of death? .. only one birth and death shown for Wilfred S Burns 1902 - 1924
* Margaret Burns .. d Jan 1928 .. aged 61 (doesn't tie with census age) .. died in Carmarthen.
Grave 2
Elizabeth O'Hara .. nee Burns
Harold O'Hara .. (Elizabeth son)
Grave 3 - next to above
* Patrick O'Hara .. (Elizabeths husband)
* Margaret Johns .. (Elizabeth daughter)
* Lillian Johns .. (Elizabeth grandaughter)
Grave 4
Percy Burns .. 1894 - 1959
Elsie White .. 1900 1978
Grave Owner .. Nora Swales b c1907.
Contacted relative of above but not replying anymore.
Am I jumping to conclusions about the connections between the above people or is the co-incidence too much ?
I know I need to order more certificates but which ones would you go for:
A) to confirm the Percy buried is 'my' Percy.
B) to trace the family back to the 1891 Census.
If you have not fallen asleep by now thanks for taking the time to read this.
Thanks
Melanie
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**DON'T NEED LOOK_UPS JUST ADVICE PLEASE**
Am trying to trace this family back .. also to confirm the burial I have is 'my' Percy Burns.
Will post all information .. long sorry
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1901 Census - Fleetwood, Lancashire
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Richard Burns ....... b c1870
Margaret Burns ...... b c1870 .. nee Richards
Elizabeth Burns ..... b c1891 .. born Richards
Percy Burns .......... b c1894
Elsie Maud Burns .. b c1900
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Richard Burns / Margaret Richards Marriage
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J-A-S 1893 (11a 1493)..Haverfordwest.
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1891 Census
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Have some good possibles but can't quite tie in.
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Percy Burns Birth Certificate
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08.01.1894
Confirms mothers maiden name as Richards
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Percy Burns Marriage Certificate to my Nan
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22.12.1923 - Fleetwood Lancashire
Confirms the above census with father
Witnesses: Wilfred Burns .. Elsie Burns
**Percy Burns divorced between 1925 and 1939 .. stated on Nans subsequent marriage cert divorced from Percy Burns. Possibly in Swansea area at time of divorce.
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