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Oh yes, definitely a different one, Sandra.

Hi Margaret,

I presume it is a different Jane Abbott?

Sandra

Curiously, Sandra, I have a Jane Abbott in my tree who gave birth to an illegitimate daughter, my gt grandmother. Like you, I will probably never find the father. Leaves quite a hole in the family tree!

Hi Margaret, thanks for going to the trouble of findng the information. However, I had already found the igi entry. I have been really lucky there is alot of information for Swillington - I even managed to find Jane Abbotts illegitimate son James last night. Unfortunately I don't know who his father was - I probably never will!!!

Sandra

This is how it's recorded on Familysearch, an extracted record:

MARY UMPLEBY Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 MAR 1794 Swillington, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM UMPLEBY Family
Mother: JANE ABBOTT


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

P014971 1543 - 1812 0599999 Film 1235384 Film

P014971 1543 - 1812 0599999 Film NONE

Thanks, Sam/Keith. I must confess I had not considered that possibility. It is so obvious when someone else points it out!!

Sandra

Sandra, see my post, it looks like John Abbot is a Labourer, so quite likely William is a Turner.

Yorkshire: Swillington - Parish Registers (Christenings, Marriages & Burials), 1540-1812
1794
Births and Baptisms.
County: Yorkshire
Country: England
Mary, Dau. of William Umpleby of Little Preston in the Parish of Kippax, Turner Jane, Dau. of John Abbott Labourer 30 Mar 1794

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Hi Sam, I really do not know what is occupation was. Above is all the information available from the ancestry site. It is possible that this was is occupation, but would his occupation be recorded in this way?

Sandra

I think it is two baptism entries, one for Mary and one for Jane Abbot. As Sam says, I would think William Umpleby is a Turner by trade (John Abbott, labourer)

Is Turner his occupation?

TURNER: Turner \Turn"er\, n. 1. One who turns; especially, one whose
occupation is to form articles with a lathe.

Hi I have found this entry in the parish records on Ancestry. I am fairly certain it relates to my direct ancestors. However, Jane, Marys mother was marrierd to William Umpleby and her maiden was Abbott. Why would it refer to Jane Turner. Is it likely that she had married previously a Mr Turner or could this be a middle name.
She was married to William at the time of Marys birth. I did wonder if this could be he mothers maiden name but I think this was Dodgeson/Dodgeon. Any thoughts would be really appreciated.

Mary, Dau. of William Umpleby of Little Preston in the Parish of Kippax, Turner Jane, Dau. of John Abbott Labourer 30 Mar 1794

Sandra