Genealogy Chat

I am searching the 1851/1861 census for a very common name in the Liverpool area and the only information I have to go on is:-

According to the information on a marriage cert, the occupation of the person I am looking for is...farmer.

He is, ROBERT ROBERTS who has a son JOHN. John was born about 1846ish.

I have added 25ish years onto the birth date of John to come up with a possible birth date for Robert of 1820+-

I have been unable to find a Robert Roberts who was a farmer.

Any ideas as to how I can look for a specific occupation would be very much appreciated.

Kathlyn

This is the only Robert Roberts with son John born 1846 that i can find in 1851 but dad is down as occupation Smith?

Name: Robert Roberts
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1z
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 253
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Owens 18
Jane Roberts 23
Jane Roberts 3
John Roberts 5
Robert Roberts 31

Roy

In my experience farmers often had another occupation at the same time.

Kath. x

On the marriage cert - what was Johns place of residence at the time? Any helpful witness names?

Many famers were also licensed victuallers - I assume it was away of doubling up on their profits - providing drink and food aswell.

Have you checked wills for the father?

Many thanks for all your thoughts, I will have to do some lateral thinking to see if I can solve this.

Kathlyn

Just wondered if this could be a possiblity, in the 1851 census

Roberts Robert 25 Head Farm Labourer Skelmersdale, Lancashire

Roberts Jane 24 Wife Skelmersdale, Lancashire

Holland James 2 Son Skelmersdale, Lancashire

Roberts John 14 M Son Skelmersdale, Lancashire

I know the birth dates are slightly out, but in my own experience census birth dates are sometimes way out and Robert is a farm labourer.

Marilyn

Just to add further confusion...
I have seen records where men have been shown to be farmers, but the original record says farrier, which looks very similar.

Gwyn

And again, dads who were agricultural labourers who become "farmers" on their kids' marriage certs! When was the marriage?

I have a sister born 1928 who,s birth was never registered.Can anyone advise me how I can get a Birth Certificate for her please.

Alan, how do you no her birth was never registered? if she was not registered then their will be no birth cert, if you pm me the details i will have a look for you.

Roy

If she wasnt registered there wont be a birth cert.
Was she baptised?How did she manage to get her pension without proof?