Genealogy Chat

A lot of my mothers ancestors were born in the Shoreditch area. One of them reads. Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England. Civil parish St. Leonards. Street address 20 Shap St. Registration district Shoreditch. Sub registration district Haggerston. Just a stones throw from Bethnal Green, I believe, where my great grandfather was born.

Linda

There was also a St Lukes, Berwick Street, Westminster.

The following baptism records are held at Westminster Archives:

St Luke, Berwick Street. Parish Registers: Baptisms, 1846-1935

But most commonly, when people referred to St Lukes Middx, it is the one at Old Street.

I have the same problem with some of my ancestors who put they were born St Anne's Soho - but they're not on those registers! So frustrating, I know...

Regards

Athena

Thanks very much Willow for that help.I will try them websites and possibly make another journey to the records office.The staff there will think i have moved in lol Marion,its not Chelsea i only wished it was it would be easier. Annie

Hi Grannie

Mine are all from the same area, you are looking for the borough of Islington. Here is Islingtons history of its borough, it might helps you understand when/which areas split and what they names were/are.

The was a church called St Lukes in Old Street, quite a few of mine were baptised there.

What dates are you looking at? have you had a look on a map, I use greenwoods 1827 map, it also gives an understanding of how close these areas are to each other.

http://users.bathspa.ac.uk/greenwood/map_c7h.html

if you want any help I would be more than happy to help out.


oops forgot the islington borough history page

http://www.islington.gov.uk/education/LocalHistory/BriefBoroughHistory/

A lot of mine are from the Clerkenwell, Finsbury, St Lukes, St Andrew area. I found what was probably a family of mine at the London Met but needed to confirm a possible later marriage of a son to confirm the link. When I asked the staff it turns out that to find the later information (I think it was from 1860s) I had to go to another place (Family records centre??). I haven't given up but I have given that line a long rest.

Thanks Peter you have made me more depressed lol.The only one i found today was my great grandad in the workhouse in Bethnal Green and i dare say its one record he would not want me to find lol. Annie

Annie,

I don't think you will find the Clerkenwell records at the Guildhall since Clerkenwell is not in the City of London. I know the LMA website is difficult but you should be able to find out whether they have the Clerkenwell records.

There may be several reasons why you cannot find your people in the St Luke's parish register:

1) They may have been born in the St Luke's district but baptised in a nearby church .(There are after all several churches in the district we know as Marylebone).

2) They were baptised in a non-conformist or Roman Catholic church.

3) This is the painful possibility: they were not baptised at all.

Good luck,

Peter

Hi Annie,

I have a book of where some London Parish Registers are held.

There is only one St Luke,Old Street but it does depend on what church they belonged to as to where you will find the records, there are a few to choose from

Kind regards
Amanda

Thank you all so much.Was very disappointed finding nothing.I know for definate that most of them were Holborn.In the Archives today when i looked they only cover St Andrews at Holborn.The rest including Clerkenwell must be Guildhall. Annie

Ah ha, Grannie, I have had the same problem. All these London districts have parishes named after a church and sometimes the bloody church is not even in the parish, or even more common, the church has been pulled down but the parish is still named after it. I have just had one where my relative was actually a priest in a London Parish but it no longer exists. I have had to contact Lambeth Palace to find him - only to find that he is not my relative at all. Oh, so much work for nothing.

I have never been any good at record offices, like you spent a day at the Derbyshire office and found no-one at all. Very frustrating. But we mustn't give up. Wish I could help you, but I can't cos I am worse than useless, but hope someone will.

Anyway, when you are next ready to attack your local record office, give me an email about it, and perhaps we can discuss likely failings! So frustrating that I could scream, and I get the impression that you are the same as me. Share it pal!

Love

Margaret

Need dates and names if you need help.

Old Street is a subdistrict of St Luke.

ST. LUKE REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : London.
Created : 1.7.1837 (sometimes "St. Luke Middlesex" in early listings)
Abolished : 2.8.1869 (succeeded by Holborn district).
Sub-districts : City Road; Finsbury; Old Street; Whitecross Street.
GRO volumes : II (1837-51); 1b (1852-69).

Rose

St Lukes will be area parish,,,ie a church St Lukes covered a parish area...

I have just about had enough of my lot.Where in the world is St Lukes Middlesex?Been at the Metropolitian Archives 2 full days this week and been through St Lukes Old St.They are not there.On some census it says St Lukes Finsbury.Is that different from Old St?Could not find none of my so called ancestors in Holborn so i surpose thats going to be the Guildhall?HELP Annie