Genealogy Chat

Thanks all for your efforts & replies. At least I know they existed, and at the end of the day, that is what all this is about, certainly from my point of view- they weren't inventors or statesmen (or indeed a states-woman!) or discoverers of a medical breakthrough, but it is important to me that their existence is acknowledged. All that info has been a great help, so thanks again!

I have my grandfather and his brother that were never registered. I wonder if it had cost something to register the children and as the family were very poor they could just not afford the cost. Irene

In answer to question 3.

The 1874 Act states a penalty not exceeding 40 shillings.

You may find the following link useful, Guy Etchells 'Transcripts of Various Acts of Parliament of Interest to the Genealogist'

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~framland/acts/actind.htm

Chris

Looks like Sarah T would have been born in the St Pancras district. Have you contacted them in case it didn't make it to the GRO?

Rose

Liz

to answer your questions

1. Registration of births, marriages and deaths was required from July 1 1837. BUT it was not actually legally required to register births until 1875, then it became a offence punishable by a fine not to do so.

As I understand it, this was because it was upto the registrar to find babies between 1837 and 1875, after that it was the parents' responsibility to find the registrar.

2. As far as I know, the 6 week grace period within which to register a baby has always applied ......... but any number of babies were not registered during that period even after 1875.



sylvia

1861 England Census
about Sarah T Walker
Name: Sarah T Walker
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Holborn St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: St George the Martyr and St Andrew Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 634
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Walker 26
Alfred E Walker 2
Emily E Walker 4
Sarah A Walker 24
Sarah T Walker 1

Rose

1871?

1871 England Census
about Sarah T Walker
Name: Sarah T Walker
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Mary E
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne Hoxton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Walker 36
Alfred E Walker 12
Mary E Walker 25
Mary F Walker 9
Nellie B Walker 10 months
Sarah T Walker 11

Rose

1891 has her as Teresa McCarthy b c1862 in Euston Rd.

Rose

Marriages Jun 1885
MCCARTHY Cornelius Shoreditch 1c 282
Walker Theresa Sarah Shoreditch 1c 282

Rose

Is this the family in 1901?

1901 England Census
about Alphonse Mc Carthy
Name: Alphonse Mc Carthy
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Cornelius
Mother's Name: Teresa
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, London, England
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Stepney
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Household schedule number: 295
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Mc Carthy 8
Alphonse Mc Carthy 2
Cornelius Mc Carthy 37
David Mc Carthy 7
Kornelius Mc Carthy 16
Maggie Mc Carthy 11
Teresa Mc Carthy 37
Teresa Mc Carthy 13
William Mc Carthy 5

Rose

My g grandmother (Sarah T Walker, born c.1860, ossibly Stockwell, Surrey) does not appear to have been registered at birth nor does her 8th child Alphonse or Alphonsus McCarthy, born c.1899, Stepney. I know this was highly irregular and surely she she was in a lot of trouble for this? My own grandfather, her nineth child,was born in November 1901 but was not registered until the next February. Does any one know
a) if the 42 day rule applied in 1901/1902
b) has it always been illegal not to register a birth
c) what were the penalties for not registering/late registration
Thanks, LIZ