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Would some kind soul do a search for me please as I only have Ancestry UK membership.

I'm looking for a Benjiman Naden b1823(we think) who went to Tasmania with his brother(who's name we don't know) We don't know why he went to Tasmania so it could've been as a convict. We also have no idea when he went but he must've been fairly young as he wasn't married etc.

We know that ou in either Tasmania or Australia he married a Mary Maginess(not sure on spelling) who was Irish.

We're trying to trace his origins as although we know he was born in England we're not sure where as we only know it was Holbrook but there are 4 of those in UK.

If anyone could find any info I would worship them forever(after Johnny Depp of course)

Thanks

Sam

Name: Benjamin Naden
Vessel: Egyptian
Convicted Date: 22 Oct 1838
Voyage Date: 5 Apr 1839
Colony: Van Dieman's Land
Piece: HO 11/12
Place of Conviction: Central Criminal Court

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11

search page for Tasmanian convicts

Convict Details
Naden, Benjamin
Convict No: 52203
Extra Identifier:
SEE Surname:
SEE Given Names:
Voyage Ship: Egyptian (1)
Voyage No: 159
Arrival Date: 23 Aug 1839
Departure Date: 28 Mar 1839
Departure Port: London
Conduct Record: CON31/1/32
Muster Roll:
Appropriation List: MM33/7
Other Records:
Indent: CON14/1/48
Description List: CON18/1/7 p472


if you go to this web page, see last post, these results have the numbers highlighted in blue as links. If you follow the links carefully and mess about a bit, you can actually download his full records

for instance, if you follow the conduct record link, at the top of the page which opens, it says "view this record on line" Click on this and a picture of an old book appears. The records are appear to be mixed up, but on the top left of each page is the convict number. Use his from the results to find the correct place in the book

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS


http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/n/a/d/Robert-G-Naden/ODT1-0001.html

I think that there is a copy of the proceedings in the Times on line archives. Unfortunately my free trial has run out, so all I can see is part of it and as it is a web page it won't copy here.


Police.
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The Times | October 25, 1838

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The snippet of the original report which I can see reads
Guildhall yesterday Benjamin Naden
years was brought before Mr alderson
with stealing four half quarter loaves
Mr sorrell a baker in Milton Street stated
was committed by the prisoner in a very daring

If you sign up for a free trial, you will be able to see the original copy

http://archive.timesonline.co.uk/tol/keywordsearch.arc

Thanks very much guys. I did a search for Tasmania details earlier today and it didn't even bring up that convict site *rolls eyes*

That convict site is brilliant. I found his marriage on there so I know we've got the right Ben Naden. No mention of a brother but maybe that was a family myth.

.....that site also shows Benjamin Naden dep. Launceston for Vic 1848. ........ The NSW BDM (on-line) shows a Henry Naden d (reg 5873/1930) at Granville (parents Benjamin & Mary).... also shows Henry Naden m Sarah Gibson 1880 ...and their chn: b1886 Ernest/1889 Edna NJ/ & 1893 William B. ........ William Bee Naden m Stella Goolagong 1917 & d 1959 (father Harry) ...........Then there's 2 Naden deaths (parents William Bee & Stella) : 1942 Gloria Ann Naden 1965 HubertJamesNaden (reg 31778/1965). .................................not sure where Benjamin or Mary died ..but you can follow up descendants from (their son) Henry's grandson Hubert James Naden -from his d cert (reg 31778/1965)... It will reveal names/birthdates of his off-spring. ....Lastly -there's 'Joy Murrin's Transcription service (on-line) -she will 'search' cert for abt $15 -then you can check 'White Pages' for them. ....Valerie (W Aus)

....just realised I've been working the wrong way! (still it's been an interesting exercise!)

Thats definitely the right ones Valerie. William Naden and Stella Goolagong ended up with 77 grandchildren and 14 great grandchildren apparently.
I've been looking up the details for one of the ggrandchildren and trying to find out about Benjamins family in England to try and find a link with the Nadens over here.
With that many people in the Australian family you wouldn't think they'd want to add more lol