Genealogy Chat

I have searched high and low for the birth records of my great grandmother and 2 of her sisters, but cannot find them. They are all on the 1871 census and have the birth records of the other siblings but not these three. Elizabeth Ann Harthern, born c1863,
(my G Grnadmother, some times called Ann Elizabeth) Margaret Hannah Harthern born c 1866 and Mary Ellen Harthern born c 1868, all born Birkenhead Cheshire, according to census. Father and mother John and Eliza Harthern. Sometimes the spelling of the surname is different, but have tried a few combinations but with out success.Can any one out there help please.
Linda

Just a slight possibility for Margaret:-

Name: Margaret Ann Hartharn
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 321

Kath. x

When did the parents marry? Were the missing 3 births for the eldest?

Rose

Heres one..

Births Dec 1868
HARTHEN Mary Ellen Birkenhead 8a 453

Chris

A possibility for Mary Ellen:-

Name: Mary Ellen Hardern
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 255

Kath. x

Haven't got their marriage record yet, but father from Tattonhall, Cheshire and mother is from either Tilston or Horton in Cheshire, according to census records. They were the eldest children.
Linda

Linda,

How is the surname spelt in 1871. I don't see them.

Rose

Thank you Kath, will follow that one up now.
Linda

Thank you Chris, will follow it up now.
Linda

Births Sep 1862
HARTHEN Ann Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 433

Rose

Hi Rose, it looks like Hartharn, but is quite indistinct on Genesreunited site.
Linda

Found them:

1871 England Census
about Eliza Hartham
Name: Eliza Hartham
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Horton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 33&34
Household Members: Name Age
Chas Anthon Hale 12
Ann Elizth Hartham 8
Eliza Hartham 29
John Hartham 28
Mary Ellen Hartham 2
Mary Hannah Hartham 5

Rose

Hi Chris and Rose, those two records are looking very good. That wasn't a spelling i'd tried. Which other site do people use for record checking, as you were all so quick. Many thanks to you all.
Linda

FreeBMD
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

and use wildcards * for searching to cover any spelling issues. I used Hart* and chose Birkenhead as the district.

Rose

Thanks Rose,
You have all saved me from another brick wall.
Thanks again.
Linda

I checked Ches BMD (under Wirral), listed all the H's, then typed ctrl f to do a find on the page. Didn't find any Hannah for your Mary/Margt Hannah - did get a John Wm though.

Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1862- HARTHEN Ann Elizabeth Birkenhead Wirral BIR/53/94
1868- HARTHEN Mary Ellen Birkenhead Wirral BIR/77/93
1871- HARTHERN John William Birkenhead Wirral BIR/88/10

Thanks MGNV
I had John from census but not birth records, many thanks
Linda