Genealogy Chat

Thanks for all your help guys you are a helful bunch :)

I am certain that my Nan said his name was Peter, but i may have heard wrong i think i will have to give her a ring this evening and check with her. i know she said that he died quite young before she was born in the early 1920's.

oh can everyone look at the 1881 census? i can only view 1841,1851,1861,1871,1891,1901 it skips a year is anyone elses like that or is it just me?

Thanks again everyone!!!

1901
Frederic Swan abt 1876 Bramfield, Suffolk, England Head Battisford, Suffolk
1891
Frederick Swaine abt 1866 Bramfield, Suffolk, England Nephew Battisford, Suffolk
1881
Frederick Swan abt 1866 Bramfield, Suffolk, England Nephew Battisford, Suffolk
1871
Frederick Swan abt 1866 Bramfield, Suffolk, England Grandson Battisford, Suffolk

Looks like 35 on the image:

1901 England Census
about Frederic Swan
Name: Frederic Swan
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Bramfield, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Battisford
Ecclesiastical parish: Battisford St Mary
Town: Battisford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Needham Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
Frederic Swan 25

Rose

Sure his brother wasn't called Robert?

1901 England Census
about William Swan
Name: William Swan
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Battisford, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Shepherds Bush
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: North Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Swan 29 Neice Lambeth
Robert Swan 6
William Swan 1
Elizabeth Townsend 73
Robert Townsend 80

Rose

Any reason why you haven't bought the birth cert to get his parent's names?

Births Dec 1899
Swann William Joseph Bosmere 4a 912

The only Peter born before this was in Lancashire in 1889 which doesn't make too much sense.

Rose

If you know the names of children try searching for them as that is how I have found some of mine. Or search for the spouse rather than the head as in the case of one of mine the head was having a holiday at Her Majesty's pleasure so his wife was the one I found the census entry by. You could also try Swan as names were mistranscribed or spelt.

I have a family where the head is 50 and his niece is 81. On reading the census image it was actually nurse. So try anything no matter how silly it might appear to be.

Good luck.

Jacky

Just to add an additional explanation....In addition to David's.

Enumerators were only required to collect the census schedules they had previously delivered to each household....Each householder was required to complete their own schedule.

If, when collected, the enumerator noted ommissions or total non completion then they were then required to obtain the missing information.

This could be by asking specific questions for missing info or, in the event of there being no one literate in the household, completing the entire schedule on the householders behalf.

The schedules were then copied by the enumerator into the sheets we now see through sites such as Ancestry.

So the possibilities for mis recording abound!

Chris

Poss marriage

Frederick Swann 1893 Jan-Feb-Mar Bosmere Suffolk
View Record

Elizabeth Wilford 1893 Jan-Feb-Mar Bosmere Suffolk

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Frederick Swann
Name: Frederick Swann
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bosmere
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 901 (click to see others on page)

Interesting looking back on the 1871 here is Elizabeth i think

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Wilford
Name: Elizabeth Wilford
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth

Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 20 Queens Gate Place Mews
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Townsend 26
Elizabeth Townsend 50
Robert Townsend 60
Elizabeth Wilford 9
William Woodruff 26

On the 1901 i found this Elizabeth with children born in Battisford which is a parish in the hundred of Bosmere

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Swan
Name: Elizabeth Swan
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Shepherds Bush
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: North Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Swan 29
Robert Swan 6
William Swan 1
Elizabeth Townsend 73
Robert Townsend 80


Same couple as in the 1871.

A case of the info being spelt incorrectly maybe?as niece on image was spelt neice!Elizabeth listed as married.

I have been tryin to find my great grandfather and my great grandfather on the 1901 census but none of them are on there is there any reason why they wouldn't be on there? they're details are:

William Swann born 1899 in Bosmere, Suffolk his father was Frederick Swann who we think was born around 1866 he was married to an Elizabeth born 1873-1919 we think they also had another son called Peter born 1896 any help would be great :)