Genealogy Chat

Dumpling

I think Sue means she has added lots that other people won't want to read - but Sue it is all interesting to the rest of us who might find a way to help.

Happy hunting

Margaret

Ok Sue, not sure what you mean by that but after all you lovely people on GR helped I forgive anyone for anything.

Sorry I stretched your post have pm'd you

Sue

Have to log off now , thanks very very much for the help everyone

Well, although I have used National Archives to get naval records didn't know that about annuities will have to check it out. Could they be widows of naval servicemen I wonder? Perhaps thats why I cannot find a record of Emmas father.

There are some Gidley annuities on the National Archives site!

Sue

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?CatID=15&searchType=quicksearch&pagenumber=1&query=gidley+annuity&first_date=18000101&last_date=18491231&queryType=1&sortSpec=first%5Fdate+desc&pagetitle=

Do not need to look it up there it is. Thanks Jeanette Coincidence.. Dymond / Symond, and how to sort it?

I guess that Donner could be mistaken for Dymond and it could be Emma sister. There is a another census with a Symons ? child too . I will have to check it out. Its all good leads

I think this is your Emma in 1841

Name: Emma Gidley
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles the Martyr
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Gidley 40
Henry Gidley 20
Emma Gidley 15
Catharine Symons 11

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 271; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr; County: Devon; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 23; Page: 40; Line: 7; GSU roll: 241333.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)
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COLLARD Elizabeth Tiverton 10 377
DALGLEISH Henry Tiverton 10 377
>>>>Donner John Tiverton 10 377
>>>>FISHER Ann Tiverton 10 377
LAZARUS John Tiverton 10 377
SATTERLY Mary Ann Tiverton 10 377
STADDON John Tiverton 10 377
TARR Jane Tiverton 10 377

Does this help?

Marriages Mar 1844
DYMOND John Newton Abbot 10 255
GIDLEY Ann Newton Abbot 10 255

Got that one , but thanks anyway Selena.

Thanks Sue, I know naval pensioners of the time were called by a similar name but cannot think who would give women of that time period an annuity, again i would be grateful for any suggestions .

Just for reference:

Marriages Jun 1847
Gidley Matilda Emma Plymouth 9 478
Phillips John Plymouth 9 478

I don't know but would guess she was in receipt of an annuity!

Sue

On a 1851 census return I found my GGgrandparents and possibly another 2 generation too but cannot work it out so if someone likes a puzzle...................
John Phillips Blacksmith. Salem Street Plymouth
Emma Phillips nee Gidley (and 2 children).
On the line above is Ann Gidley. Head, (who I think is Emma's mother) and Ann Donner, mother? At first I thought I had another generation but her age is 25 , could she be a married sister to Emma . Cannot work out what is under employment is either . Annuants? Any help gratefully received