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Isabella Wyllie Pedigree
Female Family

Event(s):
Birth:
04 DEC 1859 Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: William Goldie McKelvie Family
Marriage:
29 AUG 1879 Maryhill, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

This is the 1901 census for Isabel. Don't worry about the Isabel /Isabella thing, these names constantly change. It can even be Elizabeth.



1901 England Census
about Isabel Dunlop
Name: Isabel Dunlop
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Scotland

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Archie Dunlop 2
Isabel Dunlop 42
Eleanor Essex 23
George Essex 24
Harold Essex 2

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Thanks guys, They all seem plausible but it`s going to take some cross referencing to be sure. Guess I will have to find the closest and take a gamble on ordering a certificate. Could turn out quite expensive. Archie was born in West Ham and the 1901 lists an Archie and Isabella boarding with a family called Essex in West Ham. I`m pretty sure these are correct but need a birth cert for Isabella and John. Also know that Archies middle name is Sliman which is odd for a middle name i am wondering if that might be his mothers maiden name because Wylie was my grans middle name carried over from Isabella b 1860ish.
Thanks
Martin

If the marriage Julie found is correct, there's a married John Dunlop on his own in lodgings in Pembroke in the 1881 - an engine fitter but born Ayr, Scotland.

There are no Isabella Wylie/Wyllie births in Caithness in that time span (did 1855-65) Picked that one out because of the middle name.

From the 1891, John was also born in Wick; the children were all born in London.

I don't think the birth Janice found is hers - Wick is a long way from Fife!

Where have you searched for Isabella's birth? You won't find it on freebmd or the bmd index on Ancestry as those only cover England and Wales.

The birth that Janice has found will probably be on scotlandspeople which is pay to view site. £6 for 30 credits. It costs 1 credit to view the list of results and then a further 5 credits to view and download the image.

What do you think of this from Familysearch?

ISABELLA MILLAR WYLLIE
Birth: 15 MAR 1859 Leslie, Fife, Scotland
Parents:
Father: ROBERT WYLLIE Family
Mother: CATHERINE MITCHELL

it does seem rather old to have a first child but i`m certain that it`s the correct archie. It`s possible that he was being looked after by an aunt with the same name or even incorrect info on census.
How will I know for certain without gambling £7 on a certificate (wedding or birth).
Those certainly seem to fit

This might be their marrage

Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%)
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CALNON Michael Pembroke 11a 873
DUNLOP John Pembroke 11a 873
FORTUNE Mary Ann Pembroke 11a 873
WYLIE Isabella Miller Pembroke 11a 873
Wylis Isabella Miller Pembroke 11a 873


Isabella is down twice as unsure of surname spelling

Name: Isabella Dunlop
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Wick, Scotland

Civil Parish: East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hanley Dunlop 1/12
Isabella Dunlop 33
Isabella Dunlop 3
Janet Dunlop 9
John Dunlop 34

wonder if this is the same family in 1891??
40 was rather late for a first child in those days

the baby is actually Stanley on the image
John is a Steam Engineer

Christine

Hi, This is my first ever post so please be gentle with me.
I am looking up my great grandad Archie Sliman Dunlops family tree. I have his birth cert which tells me his dad was john dunlop, (common name i`m afraid) and his mum was isabella wylie. The birth cert is 1899 in forest gate west ham but the1901 census rec lists archie and isabel, (note the different spelling) Father missing, Boarding with a George Essex and family also in west ham. On the 1901 census Isabel or isabella is recorded as being born in scotland but a search of the birth records unearthed only one isabel or isabella around 1859 and she was listed as being born in birmingham, why would this be?. This d,o,b is from her age on 1901 census as 42 subtracted to be 1859. archies father is listed on his birth cert as a marine engineer so presumably would be at sea sometimes. however I can`t seem to find anything else. where do i look next? any help would be very much appreciated.
Regards Martin