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i have hit a brick wall with the 1841 census, i am looking for a david taylor, b,1832, salford lancashire, father david taylor, taken from his marraige cert, but there are two of them in the census both same age and fathers david, how do i decide which one i want.

Are there any names of brothers and sisters with either family that you recognise?...... to be back in 1841 you must have traced David back from a later census..... work from the family that you know is definetly him in 1851 or 1861 and then try and match them.


Nicky

i have him in the 1861 census but he is married so no brothers or sisters, i cannot find him in the 1851 census

What is the father's occupation as shown on the son's certificate?
Who are the witnesses?

Gwyn

His father was a cartman, witnesses are, Rachel Woodmancy & Thomas Smith.

Did he marry before 1851? If so, what was his wife's name?

no, he married Fanny collinson, in kingston upon hull 8th march 1857.

Is this a possible for father David. He is down as a porter in 1841:

Name: David Taylor
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Greengate
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Household Members:
Name Age
David Taylor 45
Margeret Taylor 45
William Taylor 20
Eliza Taylor 15
Thomas Taylor 15
David Taylor 9

my problem was there is another david taylor 9 his father also david in the 1841 census for salford, and i have no way of determining which one i want.

Another from 1841. Unfortunately no occupation for David, but he seems to have a sister Rachel.

Name: David Taylor
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Middleton
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Bury
Sub registration district: Birtle
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Household Members:
Name Age
John Taylor 65
Ann Taylor 50
David Taylor 30
Mary Taylor 30
John Taylor 19
Rachel Taylor 18

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The david taylor i want is 9 years old in 1841 salford and there are two of them, both with fathers called david

What about this one from 1841. Father David is a carter:

Name: David Taylor
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
Hundred: Amounderness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
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Household Members:
Name Age
David Taylor 50
Betty Taylor 45
Betty Taylor 25
Alice Taylor 20
Sarah Taylor 15
David Taylor 15
Mary Taylor 15
Annie Taylor 17
Jane Taylor 10
Margaret Taylor 8
Rachael Taylor 5
Ruth Taylor 2

EDIT - forget this David Junior is 15! Seemed good - there is a sister Rachel as well!

Presume this is them in 1861?....


Fanny Taylor
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Southcoates
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
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Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
David Taylor 29
Fanny Taylor 25
Margt Eliza Taylor 3
Mary Jane Taylor 2
William C Taylor 1 Mo


Have you traced Fanny Collinsons family? was her mother named Eliza?..... If so I would probably be more inclined to lean towards the David Taylor with wife Margaret, as it was not uncommon for children to name thier 1st daughters and sons after, if not themselves, then their parents names ...... See the eldest child is Margaret eliza, obvoiusly not conclusive, but may be a indication of where to start.


Nicky

yes thats them in 1861 interesting point about naming about the daughters but as you say not conclusive. the other problem i have is where is david taylor b1832 in the 1851 census