Genealogy Chat

i have my aunt Victoria mary morgan,but cant find he birth or her death,her name comes after my dads just says shes dead,my dad said he was twin so dont know if its her,my dads name was herbert morgan born Barnet
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Where does her name come after your dad's? When was your father born and do you or he have his birth cert?

There's a Herbert Morgan, birth reg in Barnet, first quarter of 1896. Not sure if it's him or not - 3a 274

If so, it looks like he had a twin called Grace Elizabeth Morgan - 3a 275

i have my dads birth cert
Hebert morgan born 28th june 1896
district Barnet
sub district Barnet
counties of Middlesex and Herford

after my dad theres Victoria and after her is Elsie who was born 1899 and died in 1900,now my grandfather bought agrave for Elsie but know mention of Victoria so unless she was still born i realy dont know

Ignore my above post - I got the quarters muddled up. Your father was reg quarter 3, not 1. The Grace Elizabeth I found was reg quarter 1 so won't be your fathers twin.

There's no twin appearing with the same ref as your dads - maybe his twin was sadly stillborn?

What are Herbert's parents names on his birth cert?

Malcolm bonner morgan
Helen morgan maiden name Tyler

Here's your father in 1901 - which you've probably already seen.

Name: Bertie Morgan
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Malcolm
Mother's Name: Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnet, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Highbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 310
Household Members: Name Age

Maud D Este 20 - servant
Bertie Morgan 4 b Barnet, Herts
Helen Morgan 33 b Manchester
Kenneth Morgan 7 b Barnet, Herts
Malcolm Morgan 29 b Islington

Malcolm and Helen married in 1892, Q1, district of Holborn, 1b 824

You say that Victoria was born after your father and before Elsie in 1899. Victoria isn't with her family in 1901 so I'd take a guess that she'd died. As her birth or death isn't registered it could well point to the fact that she was stillborn and possibly your fathers twin as he said he had one.

All the best x

There is this birth :

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Morgan Victoria Mary Edmonton 3a 411

and this death:

Deaths Mar 1898 (>99%)
Morgan Victoria Mary 0 Edmonton 3a 245

Edmonton isn't that far from Barnet. The cert would confirm if the parents are the same.

Is this Elsie's birth reg:

Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
MORGAN Elsie Edmonton 3a 402

If this is the birth then Elsie could also have been named after Victoria:

Name: Elsie Blanche V Morgan
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 175 (click to see others on page)

i have all birth certs of my dads sisters and one brother,but only found out about Elsie when akind chap got me copy of the grave my grandfather her dad had bought,and i only found out about Victoria as i just got copy of my g.parents devoice papers children are as follows this was in 1904
malcolm kenneth morgan age 11
Helen may morgan age 10
Winnifred morgan age 9
Herbert morgan age 7
victoria mary morgan now deceased
Elsie morgan now deceased
does this help in finding out anything,Else was born in august and died the following august 1900,born 1899