Genealogy Chat

Hi Allister,

I used Ancestry to find him in 1871 and IGI which is on FamilySearch.org.

IGI stands for International Genealogical Index.

Rose

Here's the marriage:

Marriages Jun 1857
Gardner Isabella Newcastle Tyne 10b 17
Gardner Isabelle Newcastle Tyne 10b 17
Widdowfuld James Newcastle Tyne 10b 17

And from IGI

JAMES WIDDOWFIELD

Marriages:
Spouse: ISABELLA GARDNER
Marriage: 23 MAY 1857 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England


Rose

Bet this is the birth of your guy going by his children's names:

James Widdowfield
Christening: 13 DEC 1829 Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England

Parents:
Father: Robert Widdowfield
Mother: Martha Widdowfield

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Rose

sorry about that lot - I got a bit carried away!!!!

1881

William WIDDOWFIELD Head M Male 41 Newbottle, Durham, England Iron Moulder
Mary WIDDOWFIELD Wife M Female 40 Morpeth, Northumberland, England
John James WIDDOWFIELD Son U Male 20 Penshaw, Durham, England Iron Moulder
Jane WIDDOWFIELD Daur U Female 16 Shiney Row Mill Pit, Durham, England
James WIDDOWFIELD Son Male 13 Shiney Row Mill Pit, Durham, England Iron Moulder Apprentice
Eliza WIDDOWFIELD Daur Female 11 Shiney Row Mill Pit, Durham, England Scholar
Henrietta WIDDOWFIELD Daur Female 8 Shiney Row Mill Pit, Durham, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Davisons Place
Census Place Penshaw, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342196
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4973 / 126
Page Number 16

Husband
John Widdowfield Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
Jane Ann Widdowfield Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:





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Children

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1. Charles Stuart Widdowfield Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 22 MAY 1889 St Pauls, Darlington, Durham, England
Death:
Burial:

Husband
WM. WIDOWFIELD Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:





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Wife



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Children

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1. ISABELLA WIDOWFIELD Pedigree
Female

Birth:
Christening: 05 APR 1747 Gateshead, Durham, England
Death:
Burial:

Husband
THOMAS WILLIAM USHERWOOD ROBINSON Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 16 SEP 1869 Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
ISABELLA WIDOWFIELD Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 16 SEP 1869 Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England
Death:
Burial:





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Children

None

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Husband
ROBERT WIDDOWFIELD Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
ELIZABETH HEPLEWHITE Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:





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Children

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1. ISABELLA WIDDOWFIELD Pedigree
Female

Birth: 27 JAN 1835 Sunderland, Durham, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Here he is in 1871 with his mother and siblings. Fits in with what Betty found. All children born Prussia.

England Census
Name: Joseph Widowfield
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Preußen
Civil Parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Newcastle
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
Anna M Akenhead 6
Mary Oxnard 43
Isabella Widowfield 39 Washington, Durham, England
Isabella Widowfield 10
Joseph Widowfield 7
Martha Widowfield 4
Robert Widowfield 13


Rose

noticed there are a number of Widdowfield families in Durham and that appears to be the only place where the spelling is as you have it - there are variations in other areas

1881 census

Thomas DUCK Head M Male 64 Chester Parish, Durham, England Coal Miner
Dorothy DUCK Wife M Female 59 Newbottle, Durham, England
Thomas DUCK Son U Male 20 Newbottle, Durham, England Coal Miner
John William YOUNG Grandson U Male 8 Framwellgate, Durham, England Scholar
James WIDOWFIELD Nephew U Male 10 Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Brasside Cottages
Census Place Framwellgate, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342191
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4956 / 88
Page Number 4

as Joseph - above - was staying in Durham - could this be his parents in the 1881 census

James WIDOWFIELD Head M Male 48 Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England Coal Screener
Sarah WIDOWFIELD Wife M Female 30 Sunderland, Durham, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Boundary Cottage
Census Place Bournmoor, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342197
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4978 / 22
Page Number 4

1881 census - this Joseph was born in Prussia in 1865

John FORSTER Head M Male 55 Jarrow, Durham, England Coal Miner
Mary Ann FORSTER Wife M Female 51 Washington, Durham, England
Mary Jane LAMB Dau M Female 22 Conbar, Durham, England
Hugh FORSTER Son U Male 19 Conbar, Durham, England Coal Putter (Miner)
Margaret FORSTER Dau U Female 15 Conbar, Durham, England Domestic Work
Joseph WIDOWFIELD Nephew U Male 16 (BS), Prussia Scholar
John FORSTER G Son Male 3 Conbar, Durham, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Joint Stock Row
Census Place Coxhoe, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342192
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4960 / 36
Page Number 1

I found this on Family Search not yours but a father James may mean something!!

MARTHA ANNE WIDDOWFIELD Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 AUG 1867 British Chaplaincy, Dusseldorf, Rheinland, Preussen

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JAMES WIDDOWFIELD Family
Mother: ISABEL

I am trying to find more details as to the place of birth of my maternal Grandfather, Joseph Widdowfield, born 1863 in a place listed as Deu Bs Shamrock. On the 1901 census his birth place is given as Germany Shamrock but after searching geographical websites such as Google Earth, no such a place exists. Believe the Deu is an abbreviation for Deutschland and the Bs refers to the fact that he is a British Subject. At the time of his wedding in 1899 it gives his fathers name as James Widdowfield and he is deceased. His occupation was that of a mine sinker. The National Archives believe that since the name Shamrock is not showing perhaps it was the name of a ship! I cannot find where or when his father died or the name of his mother, or if he had any siblings. Would appreciate any comments or advice that anyone may offer as this has brought my search to a complete standstill.

Regards

Winceby