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I'm struggling with finding the death of Elliott Lees he was born in 1829 in rochdale and was married to Margarat Schofield in 1851 but she died in 1871 i have seen her grave in st pauls norden but he is not in it !!! i've found him in the 1871 census but not in the 1881 census so i presume he died in between these two dates i also wonder wether he re married ??? any help would be gratefully recieved thanks adam lees

1871 is this him?

Name: Elliott Lees
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Spotland, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Spotland
Ecclesiastical parish: Norden St Paul
Town: Wolstenholme
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Spotland Further Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Lees 5
Edward Lees 8
Elliott Lees 42
James Lees 17
John T Lees 19
Mary Lees 15
Sarah Lees 13



If correct have you found any of the children in 1881?



1881
Name: Edward Lees
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Spotland, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Edenfield Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Fuller

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Spotland Further Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Lees 18
Frances Lees 25
James Lees 27

I cannot find he's death anywhere in the records could he be still alive !!!!!!!!!!!

have you really looked page by page thru every qtr in the transcribed BMD's?

yes thank you i've looked everywhere but cannot find it !!!!!

Registration was not compulsory until 1875ish so the death may not have been registered.

You may need to search parish records.

Jill

Its births that weren,t compulsory till 1875 .deaths will be registered

Beg to differ Shirley. Compulsory registration covered deaths as well as births. (I have absolutely no idea how they managed to bury someone without some paperwork - doesn't bear thinking about, but ...)

Jill

Found this:-

Genealogy Research
Key dates for records in England & Wales

Deaths
1875 enforcement of compulsory registration
September quarter 1837 to June quarter 1911 -- only first two full forenames, subsequent initials, registration district and reference number
September quarter 1911 onwards - only first forename, subsequent initials, registration district and number
September quarter 1837 to December quarter 1865 -- no age given
March quarter 1866 to March quarter 1969 -- age at death given
June quarter 1969 to present -- exact date of birth given

thank-you all who have helped me out i will find it one day it just got me baffled why he was'nt in the same grave as he's wife and daughter age 4 and son aged 1

The grave may already have been full so he would be somewhere else maybe. Or, he could have moved - looking for work / remarried etc ...

Have you checked the church burial register? Not everybody in a grave has to be mentioned on the headstone.

But there would be a limit on the number of people who could be buried in a grave, depending on how deep the original hole could be dug.

thank you guys i have checked the burial register and there are about 40 Lees's buried in the grave yard but unfortunately he isn't one of them so i think we are gonna have to go with Jill's thinking that he may off moved away he's child John Thomas was living in the next town Radcliffe so maybe i could look there sometime he could of moved closer to them thanks for your help guys your the best