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Looking at a certain page on the 1841.

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mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Nov 2008 00:23

Ancestry gives the following for the Boswell record:
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 189; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Mickleover; County: Derbyshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 3; Page: 3; Line: 7; GSU roll: 241293.

However, piece 189 covered a lot more than the chapelry of Little Over. The NA says:
HO 107/189 More informationDerbyshire 1841
HO 107/189 More informationHUNDRED: Morleston & Litchurch 1841

HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Ilkeston, TOWNSHIP: Little Hallam & Cotmanhay 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Kirk-Hallam (part) 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Kirk-Langley, TOWNSHIP: Meynell Langley 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Mackworth, TOWNSHIP: Markeaton 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: St Michael (part), TOWNSHIP: Alvaston 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Mickleover, TOWNSHIP: Findern, Littleover 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Morley, TOWNSHIP: Morley, Smalley 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Magginton (part), TOWNSHIP: Weston-under-Wood 1841
HO 107/189 More informationPARISH: Ockbrook

Now I'm wondering if the enumerator actually meant page 42 - maybe he read the folio # instead.
There is a folio 42 here - two names on it are:
Jane Disney abt 1826 Derbyshire, England Ockbrook, Derbyshire
Joseph Cope abt 1816 Derbyshire, England Ockbrook, Derbyshire
However, the two pages of folio 42 make no mention of gypsies that I could see.

Gypsy

Gypsy Report 28 Nov 2008 18:40

Potty,
Thankyou I will try that.

Chris,
You may be right. I will look into that.

thanks again.

Pat

Potty

Potty Report 28 Nov 2008 16:12

When you say you get no matches on this site do you mean when you are using the search box at the top of the screen? This will only bring up names that are in members' trees on this site. To find people in census etc you either need to use the Search Records button on here (but you have to buy credits) or use another site like Ancestry.

If you are looking for births, marriage and death registrations from 1837 to the 1920s, use the freebmd site (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/), which is free to search.

Before 1837 try the LDS (Mormon) site (http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp) for parish records or google the area you are interested in, putting Parish Records in the search box. Some places have online Parish Clerks with either parish records online or links to someone who will do lookups.

Good Luck with your research

Joy

Joy Report 28 Nov 2008 14:29

Hello everyone

I'm new to this research stuff so forgive me if this is already well known, but quite a number of people posting here refer to Ancestry.when looking for relatives. Do they mean Ancestry.co.uk?

Although I have subscribed to genes reunited I have looked at Ancestry.co.uk home page, and even as just a registered guest I get more matches there than on genes. Very often on genes it just says no matches found even when I know for a fact that the relatives in question were alive at the time I am looking at.

Is this just my inexperience showing or is Ancestry more helpful than Genes.

Thanks for any help on this.
Joy.

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 28 Nov 2008 13:25

The page probably refers to a seperate 'return' that was made for those people who were not required to be named individually but were included in a head count.

The enumerator was only required to count those people who were sleeping in places not designated as dwelling houses such as barns, sheds, tents or the open air on the night of the census so individual names do not, usually, appear in the returns. But it looks as if 'your' enumerator went one step further!

Other groups of people were also omitted, Royal Navy personnel onboard ship, members of the Merchant Marine, fishermen at sea, crews of vessels engaged in inland navigation, people onboard ships in harbour, itinerants, TRAVELLERS and night workers.

The above refers just to the 1841 census, different 'rules' applied in other censuses.

Chris

Potty

Potty Report 28 Nov 2008 12:40

From Ancestry's home page, scroll down and select the 1841 census, then scroll down to the County, then the parish. This will bring up a list of districts. If you click on each district and look at the first page number and the last you should be able to find page 42. To quickly go to the last page number, put the last image number in the box. I think this will work but I have cancelled my Ancestry membership so can't try it out.

Gypsy

Gypsy Report 28 Nov 2008 11:33

I have found this record on Ancestry, It is on the 1841 Census.



Name: Moses Boswell
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Mickleover
Hundred: Morleston and Litchurch
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub registration district: Shardlow
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Pegg 20
Emma Pegg 1
Moses Boswell 55
James Boswell 50
K N Boswell 40
K N Boswell 30
K N Boswell 25
K N Boswell 20
K N Boswell 6
K N Boswell 4
K N Boswell 3

When you look at the page, Next to the name is written, Gipsies see page 42.

The image is page on page 2, But it is only giving me the option of looking at pages 0-10.

How can I lk at page 42? Im sure there is an easier way, Than searching through the whole district.

Many thanks.

Pat