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Could anyone on here please help me sort something out?
Just received my mothers BM &D certificates and her mother (my grandmother) is causing problems.
On her birth cert her name is King
On the marriage certificate it is Porter.
Her father is as follows:
On her birth certificate it is Colin Stevens
On her marriage cerificate he is deceased.
I always knew my grandmother as Porter, but my grandfather is EA Edwards. They clearly weren't married.
I assume from this that after her 1st husband died she remarried and became Porter. I do not know whether 2nd husband died or they seperated, and went on to live with Edwards.
I think she would of been born around the turn of the century. Can't find her in census and would cost a fortune to search all kings and stevens over long period. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can sort this to trace her please? There are no family members to ask. Thank you. Jenny

Hi there,
I have my mothers birth certificate which states that she was born on 2/21929.
Her fathers name is Colin James Stevens
Her mothers name is Cissie Stevens formerly King.
Registration on 12/3/1929.
My mothers marriage certificate states Colin James Stevens deceased. I ssues 4/6/1949.
Are you able to help, thank you so much if you are. Jenny

Forgot to say that it is Cissie Stevens I am trying to track down information on. I do not know anything other than the info I have just given. Thank you

Where is the name PORTER recorded..?

On my mothers marriage cert as a witness I presume but I always knew my grandparents as Mr and Mrs Porter.

Colin & Cissies Marriage ref.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Colin J Stevens
Name: Colin J Stevens
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: King
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 933

Cissie King




Possible Cissie in 1901. The above marriage cert would confirm Cissies fathers name.

1901 England Census
about Cissie King
Name: Cissie King
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Adopted Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwood, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Penge
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Penge
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 95
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 195
Household Members: Name Age
Annie King 39
Cissie King 3
Edwin King 39
Ida King 4 months
Sarah King 9
Amy Tripp 19 >>>> Step daughter




Birth??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Cissie King
Name: Cissie King
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 239

Oh wow....thank you so much, I can't believe it. I have spent so many hours searching but not finding anything. I am soooooo grateful.

You're welcome.

A little more info for you. Edwin King Married Annie Tripp
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 432


Annie's Parents were Fanny & Lewis

I think Amy Tripp in the 1901 census is Annies daughter. There is a birth registered for a Florences Amy Tripp in 1882 & a Marriage for an Amy Florence Tripp in 1903 both in Croydon.

Chrisa....Thank you so much for this further information. It is so kind of you to give your time to help me. Could I ask you one more question? Now that I have my grandmother marriage ref, is it easy to go forwards as well. To find my mothers siblings if she had any and cousins who could still be living or does it not work?

You're welcome Jenny.

If you go to free bmd
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Click to search births.
Put in Stevens in the surname box then King in mothers maiden name box. Put the years you want to search in ( say 1915 - 1930 ) You can also select the district you want.

You will get some possible siblings but you would have to buy the certs to be sure they were your mothers siblings. It looks like there may be three possible older siblings

If you need any more help just let me know. x

Thank you again, just thought of another question, if you wouldn't mind :-) If my grandmother remarried, which I think she did, would you search using her maiden name or her married name or both!!

Just to add Jenny it is possible to find possible children of your mothers siblings but it takes a long trawl through Marriages & Births & it's best if you have a subscription to Ancestry or Find my past as you have to look through page by page.

The best way to go about that would be to first find when her first husband died. You can then start looking through the full indexes for a marriage. If it was me I would search using the name Stevens. x

Ok I understand, thanks. I know have more information so now I feel I know where to begin.....I come back in a few days and let you know how I get on. I will look at a subscription because I think as I know so little, there is no avoiding that.

Good luck Jenny.

I'll look forward to hearing how you get on & don't hesitate giving me a shout if you need anything.

Hi Chrisa, Just to let you know that thanks to your help I have now traced my grandmothers 4 children(my mum and her three sisters) and found her second marriage which is the Porter name. All from the free bdm site. You are a star thank you.

Hi again, wondered what your opinion was on this? Only just noticed.
I have a copy of my mothers marriage cert and her father is down as Colin Stevens deceased. this was 1949.
The marriage between my grandmother and her second husband Edward Porter is registered in Sept 1927.
My mother wasn't born until 1929???
Do you think there is a mistake somewhere? Doesn't make sense?